With the quest for finding common ground with those who were in rebellion, what did Jesus do? ?

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You know brothers and sisters it seems to me that Jesus at times just knew how to speak to the heart of the issues in people…he bridged spiritual gaps…how did he do this?
It seems to me that when I DEMAND that people think just like me …criticize their beliefs, and condemn their behavior without understanding them, I make a mistake…
Actually what I have learned is that at times we can a dangerous shift from righteousness to self-righteousness. So how do we solve this, with the love of Christ?
Isn’t it better to find a common ground on matters of faith. I want to have loving debates and to show people that Jesus is the only way. Even with those of whom I share the same faith. Sometimes I see that we are at different levels in our walk, so how do we stay loving and patient! Without compromising the truth?
How does the Holy Spirit lead and guide us in this delicate issue?
Thanks so much for your heartfelt responses and wisdom from the Lord!
What I meant to type was…Sorry
Actually what I have learned is that at times we can TAKE a dangerous shift from righteousness to self-righteousness. So how do we solve this, with the love of Christ? We don’t want to stand in judgement, but love. How did Christ do this? What quicksand do we step into?
Such wisdom from all of you…the Lord is good! You all are blessing me here! So hard to choose a best answer!

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Bong Hits 4 Jesus

He rolled a fatty.

jimmy_tst

I am still learning to do so in my quest to minister grace and truth to others, sister Strawberry.
Hope to share more later. 🙂
God bless you.
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We note that Jesus is full of grace and truth. (John 1:14) He doesn’t just minister grace or undeserved favour. If He only ministers grace, people may accuse Him of breaking Moses’ law and injustice. On the other hand, if He only ministers the truth, He may come across as harsh and condemning. So we need to combine grace and truth – yes, we need to minister the truth to people and do not compromise the truth, yet we should also do so with grace, so that our hearers will be edified, built up and not torn down, lifted up and not feel condemned. “Knowledge puffs up, but love edifies.” (1 Corinthians 8:1) “Love does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth, bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails.” (1 Corinthians 13:6-8)
For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him. (John 3:17) Even when Jesus was rebuking the Pharisees for the hardness of their hearts, it was done out of a spirit of love and righteous anger, not out of self-righteousness or condemnation. In His emotional speech that is full of “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees”, He ended it with a sorrowful anguish “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to you. How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!…” (Matthew 23:1-39) If only we could see a glimpse of His heart of agape love and compassion, we would be forever changed in our attitude towards ourselves and others. (A good movie to watch is “The gospel according to Matthew” Visual Bible series – it portrayed Jesus in all His loveliness, grace and truth. 🙂
When a Samaritan village rejected Jesus as their Saviour, Jesus’ disciples James and John (who would later become the apostle of love) asked Jesus, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them, just as Elijah did?” Jesus answered, rebuking them, “You do not know what manner of spirit you are of. For the Son of Man did not come to destroy men’s lives but to save them.” (Luke 9:51-56) In the same way, our attitude towards unbelievers should not be judgmental or condemning, but loving and compassionate.
As for loving one another in the Lord, we see that Jesus never condemns His own either. He calls them by name, gently correcting them if necessary, eg “Simon, Simon…”, “Martha, Martha….” Jesus speaks the truth in love, ministering the truth with grace. To the woman who was healed of a 12-year-old condition and who was not supposed to be in a public place, Jesus disspelt her fears by calling her “Daughter”. Jesus is always lifting people up, not putting them down nor laying heaven burdens on them. He said, “My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” (Matthew 11:28-30)
I dare say that whenever we spend time with the Word, beholding the glory of Jesus – His goodness, grace and compassion – the Holy Spirit will transform us into His same image from glory to glory. The transformation would be unconscious, because it would not be done by our own self-efforts, discipline or willpower, but by the power of the Holy Spirit. Whether we are reading the Bible or a Christian book or listening to a sermon, always make it a priority to feed on Jesus – only Jesus the living Bread can satisfy our every need and nourish our beings. What we need is not more laws or rules and regulations, nor more principles to apply, nor formulae to fix our problems – no, what we need is Jesus Christ, our All in All. As we behold His glory – His goodness and grace – the things around us will grow strangely dim, and nothing else really matters anymore. As we stand still and see the salvation of the Lord, He will fight the battles for us, for the battle is the Lord’s. Our part is to stand still and behold His glory, and He will do the supernatural transformation and deliverance. 🙂
Thanks for the amazing question, sister Strawberry. God bless you. 🙂
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We need to depend on the Holy Spirit to help us speak the truth in love. Should we fail at any time, remember to make room for grace. Don’t feel condemned if we think we have missed it. Instead, continue to watch our words, and feed on God’s wisdom. The book of Proverbs have some excellent guidelines about how we should speak to others, and when to speak, and so on, and we need to depend on the Holy Spirit to guide us in ministering grace and truth to others. Here are some examples:
“He who corrects a scoffer gets shame for himself, and he who rebukes a wicked man only harms himself. Do not correct a scoffer, lest he hate you; rebuke a wise man, and he will love you. Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be still wiser; teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.” (Proverbs 9:7-9)
When we interpret the verses in the light of the new covenant, a “scoffer” or a “wicked man” is usually referring to an unbeliever, whereas a “wise man” or “just man” is referring to a believer in Christ, for Christ is our wisdom and our righteousness.
“He who is devoid of wisdom despises his neighbour, but a man of understanding holds his peace. A talebearer reveals secrets, but he who is of a faithful spirit conceals a matter. Where there is no counsel, the people fall; but in the multitude of counsellors there is safety.” (Proverbs 11:12-13)
“A soft answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger. The tongue of the wise uses knowledge rightly, but the mouth of fools pours forth foolishness…. The heart of the righteous studies how to answer, but the mouth of the wicked pours forth evil.” (Proverbs 15:1-2; 28)
“Make no friendship with an angry man, and with a furious man do not go, lest you learn his ways and set a snare for your soul.” (Proverbs 22:24)
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Remember the seminar that you attended some time ago, sister, about the power of speaking blessings. Always speak positive words, and even when correcting others, remember to affirm them of your love and acceptance, and they will be more receptive to godly advice. You have done very well in this aspect as I have seen many examples in the past, and I should be the one learning from you, sister Karen. 🙂 “By long forbearance a ruler is persuaded, and a gentle tongue breaks a bone.” (Proverbs 25:15) We are to restore a brother or sister with a spirit of gentleness. (Galatians 6:1) May the Lord grant us a word in season to cheer up or lift up a brother or sister in need, just as our Lord Jesus was led by the Spirit to comfort the weary. “The Lord GOD has given Me the tongue of the learned, that I should know how to speak a word in season to him who is weary.” (Isaiah 50:4) Allow the Holy Spirit to take hold of our tongue, and we will end up blessing and not cursing, building people up and not putting them down. “But we do all things, beloved, for your edification.” (2 Corinthians 12:19)
Last but not least, it’s a good practice to read the book of Proverbs every day if possible. There are 31 chapters in Proverbs, designed for the modern man, since there are 30-31 days a month – so we can read one chapter per day. 🙂
Peace be with you, sister. 🙂

The Oracle

I have suggestion to make. Why don’t you go forth and multiply?

connella

What you say is so true but very hard to do. I have to keep it in my mind while talking so as to accomplish this.

The Corner Stone

There is no other way than the way that leads to death

i aint know

No he threw it right in their faces he condemned them and their hypocracy he confronted them and they sought to stone him for it he was kind and understanding to those who came to him and asked him honest questions and he whipped the money changers and threw them out of the temple Paul and the apostles were hated and killed for their beliefs for their teachings and the cause of christ .. stephen was stoned to death because he told them the truth .. no one seeks to stone someone or inprison them for being lovey dovey and not ruffling feathers .. christ said they hated me … they hated him … they will hate you for his names sake .. beware when men speak well of you …why ?? because followers of christ were killed by the thousands fed to lions hung upside down .. boiled in oil skinned , stoned crucified beaten .. paul beaten what like 160 lashes? christ 39 .. jeus loved them enough to tell them the very thing they needed to hear yet didn’t want to hear .. he divides right thru the middle of families ..did he show kindness and love you bet he has .. should we as folllowers of him of course ..But the gospel is good news to them that accept it and a stumbling block to others …lets not kid ourselves and adopt the thinking that the fault is on our side when the sinner seeks to use any and all ways to divert ,confuse ,change the subject ,get mad ,anything and everything to stop the word of truth ..

pwwatson8888

He gave up His place in Heaven, became human and went to the cross.
By being here on earth He revealed the true nature of the Father, allowing us to see how we should live. Interestingly all those who despise religion and Christians are usually put to silence when asked if they can criticize any thing Jesus ever did or ever said.

seekfind

Jesus’ attitude towards people who rebels or sin is that they do not know what they do. They act in ignorance driven by their flesh or sin nature. They act with worldly wisdom with bitter envy and self-seeking in their hearts. Jesus showed love and compassion to this people and use the anointing and the power of the Holy Spirit to meet their needs. These people responded to Jesus positively as a result and recognised His kingdom power. We can do the same like Jesus responding with the fruit of the Holy Spirit and using the gifts of the Holy Spirit to minister to these people. We minister not by our own might nor our own power but by the Spirit. God bless you.

Nina, BaC ..Bring back Schneb!!

I can honestly say that I have never demanded anyone to think just like me. God gave us different spiritual and other gifts and He allows different worship styles.
However, it is important that we follow the truth. I would never settle for the middle ground, sorry. I can respect people with different belief system and I love them like God asks me to love them, but no, I would not start to embrace their worldview for ” friendships’ sake.
The Holy Spirit will lead us to the right direction when we let Him. He opens our hearts for the Spirit of truth. When we talk to God we need to be quiet long enough and “unbusy” ourselves so that we can reflect on what God is communicating with us
We need to make sure that our words are aligned with the deeds we do. There is no shortcuts to a spiritual maturity, so we need to give it time.

Big Guy 360 (SFECU)

Would I seek common Ground with Satan and those whom he uses, I think not. I do not compromise my Faith. I spread the truth when ever I can. Look at how Jesus did it, he always spoke of the truth. If they didn’t believe he tried to convince them with a story so that they would believe. He did it in such a way as he was nice, but he could get upset. Just look at all those vender’s in the temple that he threw them and their stuff right out. Sometimes you can not tame the wolf, therefore you must do what ever you need to get rid of him. You can have debates and truth must be stated or why the debate? If you wish to debate the other must want to too. To debate is to give each other know truths as they see it and then present evidence to each’s belief.
You ask “How does the Holy Spirit lead and guide us in this delicate issue? ” I do not know and will not speak for him. But I am sure he is going to do a much better job then we can.

lawrence m(madesh)

Dear sister this is a good quest.it is also hard to explain.but have you noticed that very few people are willing to be servants of men?the best way to understanding people is to become their servant. servant hood instills meekness and meekness helps us grow from faith to faith and grace to grace,it is when we grow in this that our Speech will become season with grace.

Glow wings

When the whole Spirit of the Lord dwells within us, we do not think and act with the ways of this world. We are not taken in, only if we choose to. God gives us the ability to rise above all the negative of this world.
Many times, Jesus walked away, rather than stand in the middle of conflict. But when He spoke, He spoke with Love. How can one argue with that?

Mysterious Panda

Jesus taught that comman ground of faith. He taught people about the Divine Spark of God that lives in our hearts. Divine love entering our hearts and overflowing into the world…(cry)
Jesus opposed the church during his time because they charged the people to worship. He wrecked quite a few temples and was killed as a rebel leader…
Puts a new meaning on what he died for and what churches are teaching to collect donations…
Jesus and God are in our hearts, and we are in theirs… :)(:

Abigail FTW

We tend to forget that Messiah Y’shua was speaking to people who
knew, understood & practiced Torah & the Commandments, all that
Y’shua did was to bring people back to Torah & said ” Go & sin no
more.” That is come back to Torah & stop breaking it & be free.
He balanced the weightier laws with the lesser laws & showed how to live a Torah life style. He never broke the Torah, just showed how it
aught to be lived in a non-religious way.
Its not a case of people thinking like you or me its a case of thinking
like our heavenly Father, in line with His Word. His Goodness & Love
leads us to repentance & opens the way back to Him where we no
longer wish to disobey YHWH God’s Torah. YHWH’s Spirit leads us in
the paths of righteousness, where the Ancient paths & Life are!

robert p

John 5
18Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
John 7
8Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast: for my time is not yet full come.
John 7
19Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?
John 7
25Then said some of them of Jerusalem, Is not this he, whom they seek to kill?
John 7
30Then they sought to take him: but no man laid hands on him, because his hour was not yet come.
John 7
32The Pharisees heard that the people murmured such things concerning him; and the Pharisees and the chief priests sent officers to take him.
John 8
20These words spake Jesus in the treasury, as he taught in the temple: and no man laid hands on him;for his hour was not yet come.
John 8:
37I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
John 8
40But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
John 8
59Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by
John 10
31Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him.
John 10
39Therefore they sought again to take him: but he escaped out of their hand,

Chinese Swede - let God be God

Paul’s advise to Timothy is salient, here:
2 Timothy 2.22.26:
“22Flee the evil desires of youth, and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24And the Lord’s servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. 25Those who oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, 26and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.”
The idea that “God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth”, so long as the teacher can “gently instruct”, takes much of the weight off of having to convince someone. Instead, it refocuses us on “speaking the truth in love”, i.e. speaking Gospel, and letting God work in others’ hearts, including our own!

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