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Why is Saturn in Scorpio considered negative energy?

And what are the lessons one with Saturn in Scorpio needs to learn to be more positive?
Any help appreciated


  1. Well, to answer your question, I’m not entirely sure why or how it is considered negative energy. However, I found a description of the expression of Saturn in Scorpio and pasted below. The first link in sources is the page where I found the description and the second one is a page I found that seems to have an awful lot of information that may pertain to your second question a little better.
    The seriousness of Saturn blends naturally with the secretiveness of Scorpio. Saturn gives the restraint to keep secrets so that a reserved exterior may conceal an active inner life. The character is deep, subtle, masterful, and difficult to fathom.
    Since Scorpio’s co-ruler, Pluto, is lord of the underworld, and Saturn rules the mineral kingdom, this combination can produce the would-be plutocrat who endeavors to gain control over a substantial share of the earth’s resources. A knack for business and finance may pay off handsomely, especially if investments are made in mines, oil wells, and “the excremental industries” which break down substances and produce waste products which must be disposed of.
    The ambition to make money is fed by a desire for the control money brings. The ability to influence people by pulling strings behind the scenes leads by slow, persistent, and indirect stages to the attainment of the power sought.
    Often these individuals would rather work deviously than take straightforward action. They make effective detectives and espionage agents who, despite their extreme caution, do not avoid danger. The enemy is ruthlessly tracked down, whether this be a criminal, a psychoneurosis, a flaw in a machine, the germ of a disease, a fallacy in a theory, or an error in reasoning. They will continue analyzing and testing in a dogged, impersonal way until the culprit is exposed.
    Saturn in Scorpio can denote emotional repressions and deep psychological complexes relating to financial security, sex, and the disposal of wastes.
    In Scorpio, Saturn’s chilling influence tends to freeze the surface of the emotions and thwart the fires of Mars. There is an aversion to betraying personal feelings even when the inner life is in turmoil. These individuals generally prefer to stand silently in the background and observe the fuss and commotion of human affairs without becoming overtly involved. Yet they are keenly perceptive and capable of enforcing their demands once they decide what should be done.
    Scorpians seldom play lightly with the affections of others and they expect their own highly sensitive feelings to be treated with respect. In love, their passions are fixed and enduring, but there can be a domineering and jealous insistence upon having their own way.
    Intensely proud, though seldom vain, they hate being wrong and like even less to admit it when they are. If deceived by their beloved, they can reveal a streak of cruelty making them capable of premeditated revenge, or they can retreat into a shell and resolve to forgo the uncertain business of love altogether.
    Whatever the Saturnian Scorpian does, they usually do purposefully, for they refuse to expend their energies on frivolities. Even when playing a game, they are aware that they are gaining physical and mental prowess. They make it a point to observe their performance closely in order to rectify mistakes others would let pass. This deliberately cultivated awareness often leads to the success they crave.
    This position often gives an element of dark, brooding intensity which can make its presence felt even in charts where other indications show extrovert and enthusiastic qualities. There is usually a tremendous sense of purpose and determination, and emotional energy will be generously spent on attaining objectives.
    An excellent and shrewd business sense is perhaps one of the most powerful qualities of this Saturn placing. These people can do extremely well in big business or the international money markets. A certain heaviness is usually countered by a marvelously offbeat sense of humor, and in spite of the usual Saturnian caution, often in relation to overspending, Scorpio knows how to live it up and enjoys excellent food and wine.
    On the negative side obsessive tendencies are all too likely, with determination becoming extreme stubbornness. Sadly, there is sometimes a rather cruel streak; once really set on achieving a demanding objective, this person may be ruthless in attaining it. One is encouraged to cultivate sympathy and greater consideration of others. Much hard work will be carried out, and an emotional involvement in the profession is often essential – even if the basic motivation is to make money, this is enough to put them on the road to success.
    The sex life can be complex: sometimes a full and rewarding expression is inhibited, and as a result the individual can feel dissatisfied in this sphere of life. It may be that Saturn’s inner authoritative voice will instill jealousy and envy, and if this is not fou

  2. Omg to say Scorpio is negative is biggoted because people have no control over which sign they are born under because they cannot change it! I would like to see proof that Scorpios are negative. I would like to know why Hitler was not a Scorpio and while Marie Curie was. I have a Saturn in Scorpio placement and so do many great people like her majesty the Queen of England. It really makes no difference at all and if you think its bad then you start seeing yourself as being bad!

  3. Saturn represents karma, true, but that usually in placements of the 1st and 12th house. In traditional astrology, Saturn represents your life lessons, where you will have your set backs and be required to work hard for long term rewards.
    Saturn in Scorpio is difficult because Scorpio represents change and evolution, destruction of the old methods and structures and rebirth. It is also associated with power and the rise from obscurity. Scorpio also represents sexual bonding with a soul mate, reaching higher spirituality through connections. It also can represent good fortune or money acquired through a mate.
    Sooo…Saturn withholds or retards the progress of the areas that Scorpio governs. It can indicate a delay in sexual development, or a stunting of it; a delay or failure to progress in the areas of power, leadership, or relationships with a mate; it can indicate an inability to change or recover after a set back; It can also indicate a delay or inability of your partner to earn money, or a failure to gain an inheritance.

  4. Dear:
    Lady Nashira
    You stated that Saturn in Scorpio may indicate an inability to change or recover after a setback. How do you perceive its accuracy? What solutions would you suggest for a person where strength may be the waning factor? How does one gain more strength?
    You indicated that: a delay or inability of your partner to earn money, (this happened to me) or a failure to gain an inheritance. I have a friend that this actually happened to. How can I help her be positive about this?
    What are the lessons needed to be learned to recover from shocking and difficult setbacks?
    A positive perception on this would be appreciated.

  5. To Robert 84
    Dear Robert a soul chooses its time of birth and its lessons and the way it wants to learn its lessons.If you learned certain lessons in life then only can that area of your chart evolve to a higher level of evolution.Eg. Scorpio could then move to Sagittarius.Hitler was an Aries and ares is a beginner soul which can be insanely selfish to say the least.There is Scorpio of light and Scorpio of darkness.Saturn in Scorpio means Scorpios lessons need to be learned in this lifetime. Lessons of jealously, deceit,slyness, manipulation , paranoia.I have done many
    peoples chart as a professional astrologer and have to admit that indeed the Saturn in Scorpio individuals really did have negative problems in these negative areas of Scorpio.After all that experience I was weary of them.Not easy to deal with either as they are intensely stubborn too.

  6. I read the description of Scorpio in Saturn and I have to agree that all of it is true for me and my boyfriend (he has scorpio Saturn also). Both of us are stubborn to death. However, we don’t use it in our own relationship other than pampering each other to do something sweet. But both of us cannot take when we are wronged by others. Both of us are vengeful. When I got cheated in my past relationship I made sure to take revenge on them but in a very manipulative way so they felt the pain of being wronged. My boyfriend also got cheated in his past relationship. After we started our relationship he took his revenge on his ex through me. I simply enjoyed it. In a way, you can say we are like vampires. We just enjoy sucking blood out of the cruel people.
    And guess what? from our natal charts we came to know we are soul mates. We were longing to meet each other for years.


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