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Why do so many believe there will be ascension in 2012?

Can someone please provide scientific articles or data or physical proof or a source that shows why please! I also heard that the ‘galactic alignment is supposed to happen in 2100 so which is it? lol’. I am a very open person, but I am also skeptical so please inform me!

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  1. NO ONE, not even the angels in heaven, know when the second coming will be. Therefore, mortal men here on earth claiming that the Mayans knew all of this nonsense are full of crap.
    2012 will come and pass, just as the “Y2K” scare.
    I just ignore those who are concerned with it, since they base their information off of cheesy TV shows and nutcases who think they are “psychic.”
    Bottom line is: It’s impossible to believe in Jesus Christ, God and the Bible while clinging to the MAYAN CALENDAR for information regarding their return.

  2. Ascension is of an individual basis. Rapture, however, is on a grand scale. Some may ascend in 2012, but nobody knows for sure.
    I wrote this over a year ago, but the information and my feelings on the subject remain the same to this day. 🙂
    The Mayan calendar is rivaled by no other in accuracy. (Ex. Various planetary and constellation alignments have occurred precisely when the calendar predicted, natural weather phenomena have been pinpointed for centuries, rises and falls of civilizations have come and gone just as the calendar suggested, etc.) This is why there is a lot of worldwide interest in the scientific, spiritual and metaphysical communities as to why the Mayan calendar would just “end” on some random day.
    The Mayans had three separate but different parallel dating systems called the Long Count, the Tzolkin, and the Haab. The Maya calendering system is round, thus never ending. So, it is illogical for anyone to think that the Maya believed the world to end at any certain point on their calendar. Instead, they held the belief that each calendar round was considered to be a different period of time. The part of the calendar that measures the Long Count is numbered from 1.0.0.0.0 to 13.0.0.0.0. The Long Count will reach 13.0.0.0.0 on or around December 21, 2012 thus bringing about a new period of time (by Mayan perspective).
    The Mayans also believed the cosmos to be made up of nine underworlds. This idea was expressed greatly in their culture by building pyramids nine stories high. Each underworld develops a different level of consciousness. According to the Long Count calendar we are currently in the 8th level of consciousness. This level typically leads civilizations to identify with the galaxy. This is evident and proving to be accurate presently as humanity has had a great surge of interest in ’psychic phenomena’, spirituality (as opposed to religion) and space exploration recently. The Maya peoples also held the belief that were 13 heavens that created each level of consciousness (Underworld). They assigned the 13 heavens with alternating days and nights. According to the Long Count we are in a Fifth Day time period in the 8th level of consciousness. Fifth Day periods have historically been times of enlightenment in other Underworlds. Codices/paper were invented in a Fifth Day period thus leading to widespread communication and record keeping, radio wave technology and radio broadcasting leading to modernized and advance communications were developed in yet another Fifth Day period, and even the birth of Yeshuah (Jesus Christ) and Christianity came during a Fifth Day period. I believe this Fifth Day period to be a time of spiritual enlightenment and a great awakening for humanity.

  3. There’s some Mayan calendar that plots the end of the world at that year. However it seems to have disregarded the actual length of those specific years, the current calendar system and the fact that several years have been deleted over the centuries for various reason. (I’m not kidding, seriously, the actual number of the year has been changed in the history books for whatever reason, it’s kinda crazy!)
    People like to think something extraordinary is happening to them in an otherwise mundane life. I’m enjoying the “normal” stuff 😀

  4. Read up on the galactic alignment. There’s better info on science sites than what anyone can tell you , unless of course they’re scientists.
    There are no scientific articles. The whole thing is from the Mayan. What would be interesting to me would be if the Earth suffered some kind of apocalyptic event before 12-21-12.

  5. STOP IT WITH THE 2012 QUESTIONS ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    @KELLY V “The Mayan calendar is rivaled by no other in accuracy”
    Absolutely, 100% FALSE. Today’s technology runs circles around ALL former calendar systems. Today’s science can plot every single ERROR in the mayan calendar to pinpoint accuracy – a feat that would have the ancient mayan jaws dropping all over the place.
    “This is why there is a lot of worldwide interest in the scientific, spiritual and metaphysical communities as to why the Mayan calendar would just “end” on some random day”
    Do not even DARE include the “scientific (community)” in with a bunch of superstitious whack jobs. The “scientific community” is stuck trying to ward off the hordes of idiots who believe this crap!
    @VAL “21st december 2012 we are in the middle of a rift in the arm of our milky-way. This means there is nothing in between us and the black hole. We are at the mercy of the frequency being emitted by the black hole which is vibrating at a much denser frequency that we are.”
    There isn’t ONE goddamned thing you just said that means ANYTHING. It’s pure gobbledygook. You may fool some 5 yr old into thinking you know what any of that means, but you don’t fool anyone else.
    Go ahead, show us your stuff, explain what “black hole which is vibrating at a much denser frequency” means. It’s gobbledygook. GOBBLEDYGOOK!
    @VAL2: Give me a break! You think I don’t know about black holes or that we have one in the center of our galaxy?
    Let ME tell YOU something: Black holes are NOT singularities, they HOLD a singularity at their cores. In fact, pick up a copy of Feb 2009 Scientific American magazine and read up on the latest suspicions about singularities – a curious offer since the article intimates that there’s a possibility that some stars MIGHT collapse into a “naked singularity” rather than a black hole.
    Further, there is NO PROOF that we live in a spiral galaxy. The evidence strongly suggests we do, and I believe we do, but we can’t know for sure unless we had an eye OUTSIDE of our galaxy.
    Since we don’t KNOW if we actually have arms or not, there is NO WAY IN HELL we can tell the position of an arm or whether it’s “shielding” us from anything. We do believe this: IF there are arms, the arms would be far too volatile for our puny solar system to exist, and so we believe we sit between any arms.
    Also, since we can’t know the structure of the arms, if they exist, it follows that we CAN’T POSSIBLY KNOW OF ANY GAPS IN THEM, much less “predict” when the hell one of them is supposed to expose us to our galactic core.
    And let’s not forget that we are moving WITH the galaxy, arms and all. The galaxy isn’t moving past us. If there’s a gap “at the second star and turn left”, so to speak, that’s where it’s going to STAY. If IT moves, so do WE. Our entire solar system is just another dot in the goo.
    Furthermore, if our galaxy is similar to say, the andromeda, then even if there was a gap in one arm between us and the galactic core, there are other arms that are STILL in the way.
    And then you STILL utter inane gibberish with “The brighter the (sun’s) ray the faster it goes and the greater the resistence, hence the heat. That is a frequecy”
    That’s the DUMBEST thing I’ve ever heard!
    I’m not going to waste my time explaining it to you. I’m already wasting my time untangling the rest of your mess for you. But the speed of light is a CONSTANT, and the heat is RADIANT ENERGY, not FRICTION! JESUS CHRIST!
    And then you say “The black hole has a massive frequency that can suck in light, bends it and transform it. You think if the sun can affect us that a black hole cannot. ???? Think again.”
    NO. The black hole has a massive GRAVITY that sucks light in. Do you have a freaging CLUE what the word “frequency” even MEANS?
    Frequency is measured in Hertz. Tell me val, how many hertz is a black hole? Give me a NUMBER.
    Your entire article is made of meaningless buzzwords and drivel designed to fool someone who doesn’t have a clue.
    That ain’t ME, dude.

  6. “Can someone please provide scientific articles or data or physical proof or a source that shows why please!”
    Ha ha ha, no. Because there is none. It’s just a bunch of alarmist fundies who are constantly convinced the end times are near. People have been predicting this crap every decade for the past 3,000 years. It’s no more likely to be true this time than it was any of the hundreds of times they predicted it in the past.

  7. 21st december 2012 we are in the middle of a rift in the arm of our milky-way. This means there is nothing in between us and the black hole. We are at the mercy of the frequency being emitted by the black hole which is vibrating at a much denser frequency that we are.
    We are already being affected on a solar system scale. All the planets are warming up, not just earth, and our sun now has a negative polarity black spot, the first sign of a massive increase in solar activity.
    The last animistic prediction concerning this event is, ‘when the blue star shines in the plaza’ it will be the end of our age and the beginning of the 5th age.
    The black hole in the centre of our galaxy has begun to feed, it appears as a fuzzy blue star, the astronomers discovered the exact spot only a year or so ago because of it. If it suddenly starts to feed a lot, it will emit two rays of piecing light from both polls, at cross angles to the milky-way. It will appear as a giant white cross in the sky. It will sure light up the plaza. lol
    But who knows what will actually happen, all we can do is keep our heads, not panic, plan for the worst and hope for the best.
    Practicing Shaman.. quantum physics rocks.
    Emfederi : A black hole is a massive singularity that sits in the centre of every galaxy that is rotating. A black hole is made of matter that is compressed to such an extent that not even light can escape, hence it is called a black hole.
    We have one of those in the centre of our galaxy. The milky-way consists of untold billions of stars, with solar systems of thier own, that spirals out from the centre of the galaxy, forming distinct arms. The whole lot is rotating around the black hole, just the same as we rotate around our sun. As we do one rotation around the black hole, that is the long count calander that ends on 21st december 2012.
    Our solar system also moves up and down at the back edge of an arm of the milky way. On that date there is a gap in our particular arm so there is nothing in the way, no shield of other stars to filter out the frequency being emitted by the black hole. They normally act as a shield.
    You get hot on a sunny day because of the increase of the suns rays as it goes through our atmosphere. The brighter the ray the faster it goes and the greater the resistence, hence the heat. That is a frequecy,
    The black hole has a massive frequency that can suck in light, bends it and transform it. You think if the sun can affect us that a black hole cannot. ????
    Think again.

  8. According to ZeitgeistMovie.com the end of the world translated in the Bible should have read the end of the age which would be the beginning of Age of Aquarius starting around 2020.
    Apparently many cultures shared similar astrological calendars. My understanding was that in India there were stories of destroyed and reborn which fit in with similar times to Zodiac Eons or Ages.
    Around 1998 I think we had an alignment of the planets in our Solar system. We are still here. I imagine we will still be here after 2020 when whatever alignments happen then.
    The bread and butter of many religions is a sales pitch like a door to door salesman who says: limited time offer; you must buy (or repent) today before the universe is rolled up like a carpet or the sky falls.
    At a school I was teaching at recently the kids were in panic over a story about an experiment to collide atoms that might create a small black hole. They wanted to know when the end of the world was coming to decide whether it was worthwhile studying for their next test.

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