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Why do Christians believe you only have to have "faith" when that's not what the bible says?

The bible says you must eat of the Flesh of Christ… or you have “no life in you.”
John 6:56
He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
John 6:53
Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.
The eucharist was originally psychoactive plants, the flesh of christ is the flesh of the mushroom. These are ancient tales of Shamanism… This atheist has eaten the flesh of Christ… and I have life in me…
John 6:54
Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.
Katie M… God is a drug… the church tells people they’re not supposed to do drugs, and that drugs are baaaad..
Well Christians… let me know when you start really worshipping Jesus again and eating the sacred mushrooms, the holy spirit and smoking the Virgin Mary Jane..the sinsemillia while worshipping the sun and I might sign back up lol
Bahbdorje… I’m not trying to evangelize them… I’m just disseminating information that these people should be aware of before they go devoting their life to a fallacy of something they don’t understand.
Sam K, why do you find my beliefs to be “odd?” If you educated yourself you’d find that every ancient religion on the planet, greek mythology, and most of our folklore and traditions originated from using various drugs.
Monica V… the flesh of Christ is a hallucinogenic mushroom… not a man… it has nothing to do with cannibalism… that’s the kind of garbage the church teaches. Jesus was never a historical human being, he’s a myth based upon a mushroom.


  1. Because they want to go to Heaven, not Hell, and they have broken the Sacred 10 Commandments. These people are not Christians, just people who want to live in Heaven, with-out doing any work.

  2. the most important thing for Christians is to have a relationship with God..it depends on what denomination you are from as to the importance you place on Holy Communion

  3. Yes.
    And I have –
    When I believed, and by faith became a partaker of the sacrificed Lamb, who was slain for my sins.
    Why do those who believe nothing of the Bible think they understand it better than those who have experienced and understood its realities?

  4. Of course, true faith leads to obediance of God’s commandments. We obey him because we trust him; faith is trust. This includes getting baptized and partaking of the sacrament often, as well as repentance, and adherence to God’s commandments.

  5. I don’t have a problem with ritualistic cannibalism as long as the meal is consenting.
    It is a form of taking part of the death, bur rial and Resurrection of Christ. Some believe the bread and wine trans mutate upon consumption into the actual blood and flesh of Christ.
    Try reading “a stranger in a strange land” by Robert Heinlein.
    Very interesting…
    But is there a problem with this type of worship for the open minded??

  6. Did it make you sweat? And did you see the woman come up from the roots of the tree? Did you fly with the Raven?
    The “body” of Christ can be found in many foods, not just the red caps. But I do think them specail myself.
    Now, stop trying to convert the disinterested. It makes you look like an ignorant Evangelist.
    (I think that was what Paul had in his soup on the way to Damascus.)

  7. No, the eucharist is not originally psychoactive plants.
    The eucharist is originally actually eating the flesh and drinking the blood of great warriors, kings, oracles, etc. after a battle or other cause of death. This was done in order to try to take into oneself the power the deceased had – for instance, eating the heart of a great warrior would bring the courage of that warrior to the person who ate it. Same for drinking the blood.
    etc. etc. etc.
    This is the origins of the Christian “eat my flesh and drink my blood”.
    And Christians have every right to that heritage, because that’s what they were doing back in the days before they were Christians, and even for many years after Christianity was founded until the practice began to be frowned on and was taken up in symbolic form only.
    The only ones who it cannot be said they did this were the Jews, whose Torah law specifically forbade them from drinking blood and eating flesh — and precisely for that reason. That is what the pagan cultures back then did, including those Gentiles who became Christians a bit later on.
    Not that psychoactive plants didn’t have their place as well, it, but really isn’t what these verses are referring to, nor their origins.

    BUT Romans 1:17 “The just shall live by faith.”
    “Take, eat; this is My body which is broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me” (1 Corinthians 11:24, 25

  9. If you keep reading, you’ll find quite the opposite:
    John6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
    The flesh profiteth nothing.
    Also, see verse 57:
    Johnd 6:57 As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.
    Note that word “as.” This means that we live by Jesus the same way he is sustained by the father. Jesus did not literally eat his father. Jesus even tells you that the meaning is spiritual once you get to verse 63. So for you to thing that this passage is literal is to admit that you can’t read 4th grade English in its context.
    Another reason we know that this passage is spiritual, is because in Luke 22, Matt. 26, Mark 14, when he says “take, eat, this is my body” – HE GIVES THEM BREAD! He doesn’t start ripping off chunks of his arm. If the eating of his flesh were literal, that would have been the perfect time to do it. Furthermore, when he offers the blood, he gives them wine; he doesn’t initiate them as the world’s first vampire cannibles.
    Partaking of literal blood is forbidden before the law (Genesis 9), during the Law (Lev. 7), and after the law (Acts 15). Thinking that Jesus would go against all of these and endorse the drinking of literal blood is ludicrous.
    Aslo see:
    Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
    Heb. 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
    Romans 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    Eating the literal flesh and blood of a human is cannibalism, and it is pagan barbarism. No one who advocates such practices is following clear and plain scripture.
    I don’t hold the teachings of any church in any regard whatsoever. I simply stick to the book.

  10. You’re an odd one, MJ (MJ! Get it?). I suppose your beliefs are as valid as anyone else’s, though. Cheers!
    EDIT: I have educated myself, friend, and I am still educating myself. I have yet to see what you see, though. Perhaps I will one day, but even if I do, I doubt I will walk that path myself; drugs aren’t my thing either way.
    I will say, though, that you are correct in certain cases. Early Hinduism accorded importance to the use of a substance called soma, which may well have been a psychedelic drug of some sort. Soma, however, has never been indisputably identified, and could just as easily have been some innocuous plant extract. Moreover, Hinduism’s origins are incredibly complex; soma played a part in its formation, no doubt, but only a part.
    As for Greek mythology, it is true that certain mystery cults within that tradition revolved around the use of various drugs, and there is some limited indication that the Oracle of Delphi may have prophesied while under the influence of some such substance. There is no real evidence, however, that the mythology as a whole grew out of drug use.

  11. Really? I always thought it was the bread and wine, from the last supper. That’s why people do the communion rite in church, they even quote one passage in the Bible from the last supper claiming this…I don’t see anything about mushrooms.
    “When receiving Holy Communion, the communicant bows his or her head before the Sacrament as a gesture of reverence, and may receive the consecrated host either on the tongue or in the hand, at the discretion of each communicant.
    The distributing minister says: “The body of Christ” or “The blood of Christ”, according as the element distributed is the consecrated bread or the consecrated wine, or: “The body and blood of Christ”, if both are distributed together (by intinction). The communicant responds: “Amen.” ”
    “Take, eat; this is My body which is broken for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me” (1 Corinthians 11:24, 25)
    And you also confuse me by saying “These are ancient tales of Shamanism”. Shamanism is based very much on the spirits around you. They contact them (or attempt to). In fact, Paganism was based upon Shamanism. I know for a fact that many Christian and Catholic cultures are against Pagan and Shaman beliefs entirely. Even in history they didn’t agree…
    “In Europe, starting around 400, institutional Christianity was instrumental in the collapse of the Greek and Roman religions. Temples were systematically destroyed and key ceremonies were outlawed or appropriated.”
    “The repression of shamanism continued as Catholic influence spread with Spanish colonization. In the Caribbean, and Central and South America, Catholic priests followed in the footsteps of the Conquistadors and were instrumental in the destruction of the local traditions, denouncing practitioners as “devil worshippers” and having them executed. In North America, the English Puritans conducted periodic campaigns against individuals perceived as witches. As recently as the nineteen seventies, historic petroglyphs were being defaced by missionaries in the Amazon.”
    So why would they believe in the same ritual as the Shamans?
    P.S My words aren’t “All you need is faith”, my words are “You need faith to be able to connect with God.” Quite a difference.


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