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What methods are used to objectively determine whether a "near death experience" is a hallucination or genuine?

When I said earlier there is no evidence a hell exists, at least two christians presented as evidence the alleged experience of a man who wrote a book about visiting hell.
We know that people from different cultures and religions have different near-death experiences.
How did those christians determine that the experience described in that book was genuine? What methods were used?


  1. In surgery rooms, where they are doing studies about NDEs, they turn on projectors once the patient has been anaesthetized.
    These projection are aimed at the ceiling. If there is an actual short term death and they have a NDE, they should see the images.
    If they have “experienced” a NDE, they will be interviewed and asked about what they have seen. If they have seen images that are projected, then that is pretty conclusive proof that NDEs are real not imagined.
    Science has such logical ways of dealing with real world and spiritiual world stuff.

  2. simply put, others are willing to listen and read about it.
    you might say pandering to an insatiable human curiousity.
    know how much money horror movies make?
    they make a lot, and most of them are so predictable.
    there is no scientific method used to determine whether a subjective experience like that can stand up to skepticism, however, there are ways of putting it to the test, and steps devised by theologians to keep people from making hysterical claims.
    I would like to read “Seth Speaks” one day. I only read some excerpts here and there.

  3. Well, all hallucinations are genuine, that is they are experiences created in the mind by various causes.
    Anesthesia can create toxic reactions that have been experimentally tied to some NDEs.
    In spite of propaganda to the otherwise by religious liars, no NDEs have been documented as being near death or close to death or even death and resuscitation.
    It is ironic that the religious community would not police its own people from telling lies. They do try to create the image of religion as a source of truth. But they are really failing here.

  4. No methods, just wanting to believe. The book turned out to be a fake anyway.
    The only “method” anyway near scientific for OOBEs and NDEs was that someone (several people) were held to have seen things they shouldn’t have known existed (for example a shoe on a roof only visible from above the building). These cannot be reiterated (the true scientific method), and fraud cannot be excluded..
    There is also a similarity between descriptions of these phenomena, but there is always the possibility of plagiarism.
    As for scientific examination,(and subsequent rejection) there have been suggestions that near-death causes the brain to close inwards, leaving a bright space in the centre. Deep sugar starvation of the brain sometimes gives a patient a bright shining hole in the centre of what he can “see” (bypassing actual use of the eyes). I know because I’m a diabetic and I have had these hallucinations during hypoglycaemia, exactly the way they are described as NDEs.

  5. As you pointed out, NDEs are culturally specific. Jews do not see Jesus waiting for them, Christians don’t see Mohammed, Buddhists don’t meet Moses. If there were an objective afterlife then everyone would have the same NDE, but they don’t. The “tunnel of light” and other such hallucinations are repeatable by inducing anoxia. EMF can cause people to sense another presence in the room. These are all physical phenomemon we experience as our physical processes shut down. We are not experiencing an afterlife.


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