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What are your thoughts on this, in regards to the "Second Coming"?

“He will return to straighten out Christianity, which will be in a shambles at the time of his arrival, and to set up a new system of thought when the world is sorely in need of one.”
“By that time, all religions will be in severe crisis. He will undermine religious organizations — not unite them. His message will be that of the individual in relation to All-That-Is. He will clearly state methods by which each individual can attain a state of intimate contact with his own entity; the entity to some extent being man’s mediator with All-That-Is.”
“it is he who will teach humanity to use those inner senses that alone make true spirituality possible. Slayers and victims will change roles as reincarnational memories rise to the surface of consciousness. Through the development of these abilities, the sacredness of all life will be intimately recognized and appreciated.”
“He will lead man behind the symbolism upon which religion has relied for so many centuries. He will emphasize individual spiritual experience, the expansiveness of soul, and teach many to recognize the multitudinous aspects of his own reality.”
—-excerpts from Seth Speaks Ch. 21
Is there anything in your own belief system that concurs with or goes against this?
Feel free to quote text or scripture if you feel inspired to do so.
CanadianFund: I don’t know, I’m just a messenger.
Claptic and GC….Thank you! Great Answers.
JimboP: Yes! I agree. Thank you. 🙂

20 COMMENTS

  1. THis sounds like a more detailed (and appreciated) description of the return to the Age of Purity prophesied in the Vishnu Purana.
    “When the close of the Kali age shall be nigh, a portion of that divine being which exists, of its own spiritual nature . . . shall descend on Earth . . . (Kalki Avatar) endowed with the eight superhuman faculties. . . . He will re-establish righteousness on earth, and the minds of those who live at the end of Kali Yuga shall be awakened and become as pellucid as crystal. The men who are thus changed . . . shall be the seeds of human beings, and shall give birth to a race who shall follow the laws of the Krita age, the age of purity. As it is said, ‘When the sun and moon and the lunar asterism Tishya and the planet Jupiter are in one mansion, the Krita (or Satya) age shall return.’ ”

  2. I want to direct your attention to the more current prophets, channelers and teachers and away from the mainstream of traditional prophecy for two reasons: First, older messages meant for other people in other times are generally less relevant and meaningful in current time. Second, the words of most traditional teachers, role models and prophets have been translated and ‘interpreted’ by others, often causing the message to change in meaning or to lose its initial clarity and impact.
    “The inner experiences that are evoked now by the messages of older prophecies are too often not the ones I initially intended, and sometimes quite the opposite. The messages of current prophets, teachers and channelers are generally more accurate, meaningful, alive and accessible now. This is important if you want to know me as I am now.
    “As time draws us toward our Meeting Place more and more channels of my Light will be noticeable to you. There are thousands of writers and artists in every medium now expressing me in their work. I am choosing to discuss only a few of these messengers and their messages here, not because the others are less effective, accurate or clear, but because the ones we will discuss represent the spectrum of my message’s expression available now in the spoken and written word.”
    “The Urantia papers detail the multiple levels and inner workings of the reality of a larger universe that has spawned this universe and several others before it. The first or Central Universe, created by Grandfather and the original Mother, provided the starting point for former evolutionary will beings like myself to become creators of their own universes. And this is the journey you are on as well.
    I awakened to the realization that there was a very serious imbalance in me that reverberated throughout Creation, and that in order to correct it, I needed to change my plan.
    I had believed that you would be yet another species of planetary will beings coming of age. There would be a cleansing, and then the establishment of a technology supported paradisaical golden age of fabulous creativity.
    We must first back out of this reality by owning it completely and healing it.
    In other words, you’ll know yourself and most of what you’re doing before you do it.
    You’ll make plenty of mistakes, of course, but you won’t be so likely to make the same ones.
    You won’t be likely to let the very best of you fall away into the darkness.

  3. That’s nonsense. You need to KNOW Jesus Christ. I need no straightening out. Get thee behind me, Satan. You are a false accuser. You know nothing about the second coming of Christ. Repent from your evil ways and learn the Bible.

  4. i think the last thing we need is someone to tell us what the latest and greatest “system of thought” is. is that not what has gotten us in this mess?? personally…i choose not to believe seth. i will not, to pick apart each of those quotes, but they seem awfully biased
    the time has come for us to find our own answers.
    “You must understand it, go into it, examine it, give your heart and your mind, with everything that you have, to find out a way of living differently. That depends on you, and not on someone else, because in this there is no teacher, no pupil; there is no leader; there is no guru; there is no Master, no Saviour. You yourself are the teacher and the pupil; you are the Master; you are the guru; you are the leader; you are everything. And to understand this; is to transform bodies”
    ~J. Krishnamurti
    Death before death.
    quietly search within, help others, be kind. what else does one require?

  5. Yes I have quite a few observations to make, all of which line up, except I am not sure if Seth claimed that the Master himself would return to “clean up the mess”
    Firstly, in 1914 – 1920, an little known American channeler received a huge amount of what might be called a new interpretation of the Bible. This indeed included the statement that this new “revelation” was the second coming, and that Jesus did not intend to return, to “clean up the mess”.
    In other places, namely amongst current time channelers who follow the Urantia Book, it has emerged that Jesus has stated he will return, but that he will return when the job is done – i.e. when we have sorted out Earth.
    To add to that, for over 10 years now, a being called Monjoronson has stated that it is his job to physically materialize here, and lead us over a 1,000 year period, to living in Truth and harmony.
    So, this is what I believe. The Truth has been delivered in a number of places, at least two of which I am aware of. Jesus has done the job he was given to do, which was to be an example of how to live a perfect life. The cleaning up will be done by another being, and that will happen soon. What is soon? Hard to say, but i still hope to live to see his arrival, as an adult, and as another amazing being whose very being emanates the Light of God.

  6. Isn’t there something in the Seth sagas to the effect that “there is a lot you could learn from the mind of an ant.” ?
    The second coming of Christ, to a mystic, is internal, within you, as you find your Higher Power within and without. And you seem to be one of us, a mystic.

  7. There is no coming: what you are seeking is already here. The seeking creates the coming, and like chasing the horizon, it never seems to come to you. If you stop seeking, there will be nothing there to straighten out. There is no inner and no outer as separate entities, and there is no measurement to test it out. Measurement is arbitrary. The more accurate you measure, the longer something becomes. Nothing is sacred, and you can’t measure nothing, because when you do, nothing will become something. One can only measure a thing against another thing. Sacred means “whole” (Sanctus). If something is whole, it is not separate, which means there is nothing to measure it against, which means it can’t exist.
    A fly moves so quickly that the only time you can measure it is when it lands upon your hand and you feel it: but it moves so fast that you cannot grasp it, before it escapes.

  8. hmmm…. I never heard that before dear Blue..
    but i can share a few truths that Jesus brought out clearly…
    Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
    Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
    Luke 21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in MY NAME, saying, I am Christ (That Jesus is Christ) ; and the time draws near: go ye not therefore after them.
    Mark 13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ ; and shall deceive many.
    (( Jesus tells us that the “many” shall deceive the “Many”))….(I would rather be a part of the few who receive the Kingdom within)….”Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the kingdom.” Luke 12:32
    1Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
    1Peter 4:10 As every man hath received the gift, even so minister the same one to another, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God.
    1John 2:20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
    1John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abides in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teaches you of all things, AND IS TRUTH, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
    Here’s a few passages that came to mind after reading that excerpt….I confess I have to trust the Spirit of Truth….
    What else do we have to trust but the “anointing which is Truth”, and always will teach us to abide in the Living Words of Christ ? *smiles*
    John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceeds from the Father, he shall testify of me:
    John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.
    I believe John had an experience of this Coming of the Lord (Within) and said by the Anointing… “And we know that the Son of God IS COME, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.” 1John 5:20
    1John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
    1John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

  9. Blessings to all. is interesting in our text that THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST is tied in with the
    message of the RESURRECTION. Vss. 6,72) It is profitable for us to focus on THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST.
    -The SECOND COMING OF CHRIST encourages us in trouble — 2 Thess. 1:7
    -The SECOND COMING OF CHRIST purifies us — 1 John 3:1-33) Why has the SECOND COMING OF CHRIST been delayed? -2 Pet.3:4ff
    -Because time is really nothing to God — Vs. 9
    -Because God wants MORE people to repent — Vs. 9
    BUT THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST WILL HAPPEN! When it does, THINGS
    WILL CHANGE. — 2 Peter 3:10-12
    As believers, we are to be looking forward to THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST. —
    2 Peter 3:13
    The SECOND COMING OF CHRIST is the BLESSED HOPE for the Christian. — Titus 2:13
    THE PROSPECTIVE ELEMENT OF THE SECOND COMING
    The Secrecy of the Second Coming
    -Acts 1:6,7; Mt. 24:36,42; 1 Thess. 5:1,2
    The Surety of the Second Coming — Acts 1:11; Rev. 22:12,20
    The Stages of the Second Coming — The SECOND COMING OF CHRIST OCCURS IN
    TWO STAGES THAT WILL SPAN AT LEAST 7 YEARS OF TIME.
    1. The Rapture of the Church
    a. Occurs when Christ comes in the clouds of the air for the CHURCH at the end of the
    AGE OF GRACE. — 1 Thess. 4:13-18. THAT IS THE NEXT THING TO OCCUR
    ON THE PROPHETIC TIME CLOCK AS WE UNDERSTAND SCRIPTURE!
    b. Occurs right before the GREAT TRIBULATION happens which will last for seven
    years.
    1) Daniel 9:27 — “One week” is a term for 7 years in Hebrew Culture.
    2) Revelation 11:2,3 – (42 months or 2260 days). Added together equals 7 years.
    2. The Return to the Earth
    a. Occurs after the GREAT TRIBULATION when Christ comes back from Heaven with
    BORN AGAIN BELIEVERS to defeat Kings of the Earth at THE BATTLE OF
    ARMAGEDDON. — Revelation 19:11-21
    b. Occurs right before THE MILENNIUM — Revelation 20:1-4
    ILLUSTRATION:
    II THE PERSONAL ELEMENT OF THE SECOND COMING
    A. For the Unsaved — Those who DO NOT KNOW Christ
    1. They will enter the GREAT TRIBULATION PERIOD which will be a time of GREAT
    TROUBLE as God’s wrath will be poured out all over the earth. Joel 2:1,2; Matthew
    24:21; Revelation 6:15-17.
    2. The most of them WILL NOT get saved because they will believe a lie. 2 Thess. 2:10-
    12.
    3. They, then, will be cast into the LAKE OF FIRE — Rev. 20:14,15
    B. For the Saved — Those who DO KNOW Christ
    1. They will go into the PRESENCE OF THE LORD — 1 Thess. 4:17,18
    2. They will FACE THE JUDGMENT SEAT OF CHRIST — 2 Cor. 5:8f
    3. They will be MARRIED TO CHRIST — Revelation 19:7-9
    4. They will BE TAKEN TO ETERNAL HEAVEN — Revelation 21:1-3
    III. THE PREPATORY ELEMENT
    A. Make Sure of you Salvation — John 14:1-6
    B. Make Sure of your Service — 2 Cor. 5:8
    WHEN THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST TAKES PLACE, IT WILL
    AFFECT YOU… HOW WILL IT DO SO? ARE YOU READY? REALLY…… Peace to all.

  10. hello and good evening sister…
    i feel like an ignorant fool posting this response… but alas…
    i have been an ignorant fool before.
    my only comment is this:
    “Therefore He says:
    Awake you who sleep,
    Arise from the dead,
    and Christ will give you light.” – Ephesians 5:14
    hope you can grok!
    love you lots.
    xx

  11. I have found some consolation in knowing that this was written in 1919, and that the world managed to right itself again. Then again, Yeats’ contemporary Marx did not foresee globalization, where not just tiny England’s but the entire world’s resources would be claimed and exploited beyond their natural and human limits. His theories now (like Einstein’s) seem perhaps to have been only ahead of their time.
    ________________________________
    William Butler Yeats (1865-1939)
    THE SECOND COMING
    Turning and turning in the widening gyre
    The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
    Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
    Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
    The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
    The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
    The best lack all conviction, while the worst
    Are full of passionate intensity.
    Surely some revelation is at hand;
    Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
    The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
    When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
    Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
    A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
    A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
    Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
    Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.
    The darkness drops again but now I know
    That twenty centuries of stony sleep
    Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
    And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
    Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

  12. This is a New Age sort of question I feel comfortable with – Jesus will chose to those he will speak – it is a collective phenomena people in every walk of life are reaching out to maybe to create a positive difference and at long last at best have collectively reached a tipping point – now it is time for our hopes and dreams to tangibly manifest 2010 has been declared the year of manifestation by the Beings of Light in the Realms of Immutable Truth. This is a roller coaster time of miracles and challenges – these extreme experiences are waking up humanity at warp speed and our God selves are not allowing us to simply go back to sleep – people in every walk of life are reaching out to maybe a positive difference and at long last we have collectively reached a tipping point – now is the time for our hopes and dreams to tangibly manifest.

  13. SECOND COMEING IS BULLSHIT ALL YOU HEAR FROM THE CHRSTIAN COMUNITY IS BULLSHIT THEY CAN ONLY LIE 2 MUCH BUT THEY CANT SHOW YOU NO PROVE THINK ABOUT IT

  14. I won’t post all the information on this subject, as there is quite a lot (from Elias)… but I will share with you some transcript…
    Elias Session 298::
    http://www.eliasweb.at/transcripts/t_session.php?session_nr=298
    Elias Session 530::
    http://www.eliasweb.at/transcripts/t_session.php?session_nr=530
    Within these sessions, use your browser’s search function and search the page for “second coming” and then scroll up to get the entire context of what is being talked about…. Or, you can just read the entire transcripts if you would like…
    All I will say, though, is that there is much more to these concepts than many individuals have the understanding of. And yet, even within an understanding of this information, to take the specific details of all of this as “fact” would be missing the point! We are not here to become enlightened… or to reach a higher plane… etc… We are here merely for the joy of experiencing life (in all of its forms)! So second coming or no second coming, it really matters not… we are ALL that! 😉

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