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Was Eve the Goddess giving the fruit of life {Kundalini} to man?

The serpent, who dies and is resurrected, shedding its
skin and renewing its life, is the lord of the central tree, where time and
etemity come together. He is the primary god, actually, in the Garden of
Eden. Yahweh, the one who walks there in the cool of the evening, is just
a visitor. The Garden is the serpent’s place. It is an old, old story. We
have Sumerian seals from as early as 3500 B.C. showing the serpent
and the tree and the goddess, with the goddess giving the fruit of life to a
visiting male. The old mythology of the goddess is right there. {Joseph Campell}

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  1. Eve was a women
    The serpent was satan in one of his false subtle costumes
    Jesus is the Savior of the world.
    This is the truth

  2. Wow… You have thrown the Wolf in the Hen House with this one my friend… I find the stories of Robert Bly and Joseph Campell and a few others very enlightening, and yet I can see where many will attempt to …. words fail me, other than to say most only want to look at anything only one way… GREAT QUESTION!!!!
    ME!
    .

  3. Nope…the study of Kundalini was made by the great sages and seers of India…Kundalini doesn’t mean “life”, but “energizing the life force”…it is a speaicalised branch among the life sciences…

  4. The voice of the experts . . . yeah. Okay.
    But good morning!
    Your view, of course, is that of some of the Gnostics (Orphic) who saw the serpent in the Garden of Eden as the herald of wisdom and the God in the garden as the egoic demiurge, not the true God at the root of Reality. Just as Christ was seen as the New Adam, either Mary the Mother of Christ or Mary Magadalene (depending on tradition and sometimes ambiguous in Gnostics texts) was the new Sophia –the wisdom-consort of the cosmic Christ.
    The Eden Story is another, different version of a Babylonian myth (Gilgamesh, I think) in which the serpent and the goddess in the garden are honored rather then vilified.
    The tree is the shushumna, the serpent is latent wisdom, the apple is the awareness of duality, which causes alienation and grief, the world illusion, and the vicissitudes of life. This circumstance is itself the condition of being cast out of the unitive state of Paradise.

  5. Interesting 🙂
    I have an interesting (but not so convincing to me) analogy I read few days back to(by a saint) to share
    The serprent or kundalini(since it also stimulates the sex nerves) according to it represents the sensual propensities. Thus enjoying the apple in midst of garden (at centre of body) led to the downfall. The knowledge of good and evil that the serpent tempted Eve to have refers to the dualistic experiences that are caused by illusion or maaya.

  6. I thought I would jump in here…since my name is ‘Eve’!
    My first reaction was from an old Disney song, “Fairy tales can come true, it could happen to you if you’re young at heart…”. Couldn’t resist. 🙂
    Well, anyway…these ancient tales, even when there’s evidence, early ‘Sumerian seals’, etc. are man/mind made. They are fun to talk about, true…we all like a good story. Beyond that, they can lead folks, who are looking for ‘truth’ into a labyrinth of ‘fools gold’. People live a lifetime trading these myths and trying to apply them, in some practical way, to life. “Sewing old material on to a new garment”.
    There seems to be so much suffering, real serpents to handle, these old myths are of little help. I know, I sound bah, humbug’…sorry. 🙂

  7. Hmmm… All I know is that, last night, my goddess and I shared with each other the fruit of life, by use of my serpent’s powerful energy. *wink wink* =P

  8. in the last couple of essays in campbell’s Myths To Live By, he identifies certain stories as depictions of, or fulfilling the needs of the human psyche. such stories do not have explicit literal value, but the symbolism maintains as long as the symbols continue to hold the same meaning.
    so, i can see where the symbol of a tree, or a snake, aor a woman could come to have various interpretations, so what use are the old stories in this day and age unless we can understand them in their own contexts?
    is our understanding of life enhanced by picking apart myths?

  9. No, not in the Genesis story. It is psychological metaphor for the LOSS of that lifeforce inherent in Eve. In the older pictoral representations, the snake has the face of an old woman, but this is not symbolic of the goddess, but rather the earthbound caregiver/ego.
    Even, the feminine (representing the vulnerable/creator aspect of mind) archetype is susceptible to being influenced to ingest the idea of good/bad (duality – believing what is good and bad about self and the world) and as a consequence can be shamed out of the innocent state and creation becomes painful rather than a natural aspect of conscious choice.
    Adam/reason – the masculine aspect of mind, is asleep when this occurs during early childhood. (The thinking brain doesn’t come on-line until around seven) The story explains how we lose our connection to that natural energizing lifeforce (kundalini), as well as the way back to the Tree of Eternal Aliveness.

  10. Adam is “Atma” or the spirit according Hindu philosophy. Where as Eve is “Jeev” or the life source.
    Kundalini is nothing but “EGO”
    This “EGO” can be treated as “GODDESS”

  11. Not sure about the kundalini phrase rita. Through traces of this story have been found in sumeria and other places.
    The serpant is more likely to represent Tiamat the babylonion goddess who was mother of the first gods and who was killed to create the world, she was worshipped in many places as a creator/destroyer including the caanite areas and Babalon.
    The theorie is she was placed in the position of the serpant to represent the folly of turning from God, it is an old way of destroying or subsuming an older belief system into a newer one, as Ihave said many times the catholic church has many examples of saints who were not saints at all but older gods sanitised for christien use it made it easier to convert new populations.
    As an earlier answerer pointed out it is pointless to pick apart myth’s in todays mind set the original meanings are lost, the only reason I do it Is to try and uncover similarity’s between belief systems, symbolism etc. Which might reveal some clue to the myth’s origin or the social system at the time. Even through I consider myself a wiccan (some object to this)I have never found any trace of some kind of universal mother religon. The themes are similar because a lot of myth’s spread a long way probably through early trade, intermarrige and constant migration. The symbols and themes used in the oldest myth’s are universally recognised arcetypes and so easily fitted in to most belief systems. There is very little mystery here really.

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