Why do SGI Buddhists attack and try to convert others with a strong arm? Why do they attack the Dalai Lama?
I am a very serious Buddhist. I have been a part of a Tibetan Sangha which is Mahayana, a Theravada Buddhist Vihara that is the home to Sri Lanka monks. I have also been a part of Insight Meditation community.
I have studied with a Burmese Monk-Ashin.
All Buddhists that I have met have been very accepting of other people.
I have been taught that it is very bad to judge other people and to speak of them in a negative way. Buddhists do NOT try to convert other people to Buddhism. That is almost universal. If someone is interested, then that person will be shown the way. But, Buddhists do not feel any need to increase their numbers. Buddhists work on themselves. There main mission is not to change others. Buddhists main goal is to bring an end to suffering in the world. If we can lessen the suffering in our own lives, we are more likely to experience happiness. Happiness is the main goal of all human beings. Buddhists are very compassionate and try to end suffering in others, but not bey converting them. HOWEVER, SGI BUDDHISTS are a different case. IN SGI, ONE OF THE MAIN GOALS IS TO COVERT PEOPLE TO BUDDHISM. That is often done with a rather strong arm. SGI members regularly criticize other Buddhists. SGI attacks the Dalai Lama and does not show him respect because they say he is anti-gay. That is false. The Dalai Lama has spoken out strongly against discrimination against gay and lesbian people. He has made clear that the Buddha said NOT one word about gay people. He makes clear that any sexual misconduct rules for Buddhists apply to all people—-they are basically to prevent us from harming others in any way. SGI teaches that their Buddhism is the best. I have spoken with many SGI members who say the other Buddhists are wrong. The fact is that all human beings do not see clearly. We all have delusions. We all make mistakes. Even if the Dalai Lama does not speak out about gay rights does not mean he should not be respected and loved, equally. The Dalai Lama has never used power to force change like a tyrant or like a Pope. The Dalai Lama is a loving and peaceful man. –Personally, I find the Theravada Buddhism to be the very best way for me. Tibetan Buddhism is quite complicated with the Bon religion, many gods, protectors, and many Buddhas. In Theravada, the Buddha was simply a man. He was a man with back pain in later life. He died. He was so enlightened. He showed the way to the end of suffering. I do not think SGI is anywhere close to following the path of the Buddha, because they are far too focused on changing other people. That is not the way. I hope they will find the way. Many people in this world are confused just as the SGI folks are. I think many choose it, because it is easy. They chant, they do not become mindful with meditation. Many, whom I have talked to, do not study dharma and do not care to understand. Not understanding is not enlightenment. Instead they chant for cars, money, and even sex. That is highly selfish—those things are all temporary pleasure and not happiness. It is so much like a political club.
The ugly comments and judgments that I hear about other people are very hurtful. It upsets me in my heart. I truly do try to love everyone equally and in the same way. I look forward to your comments and your own experience.
I was an sgi member for many years.I am finally glad that I can see clear now and I am out.I was brainwashed by this cult and wasted years of my life life.I am still in recovery from the damage.I
I don’t know why you are saying people are wrong to have opinions.Not all opinions go under the category of nonjudjement.Obviously it is wrong to steal.But from the person who gets money he doesn’t think it’s wrong.There is a difference between expressing an opinion and non judgement. Yes it is my opinion too that chanting for cars and material stuff has absolutely nothing to do with Buddhism and you say if chanting makes people happy what’s wrong with that.If you don’t see anything wrong with chanting to get a job then I say there is something not right in your understanding of Buddhism. I am not saying that is wrong to want to be happy.Just don’t say that you are practicing buddhism because Nicherain did not chant for people to bring him robes.
And you say choose the buddhism that works for you.I think people have the right to believe and practice whatever they wish and as long as there is no harm I personally do not care what religion people are.However Shakamuni was a brilliant philosopher and I am just pointing out that people in Soka Gaki are not really practicing his wisdom. For the most part they are using it to fit into their criteria. He never said earthy desires equal enligtenment so meditate on getting stuff.
I thought the original question on this post was why do they try to convert people with strong arm.I will tell you.They think it will bring them benifit and they are brainwashed to beliving it.Chanting was something that helped me alot but I would strongly advise anyone to not get too involved with sgi.Mist people have a very shallow understanding of Buddhism.So many leaders are arrogant and phoney and so many think that there form of buddhism is the only real one and every other form of religion is inferior.I revieved my gohonzon 25 years ago and I have finally laid it to rest because I was severly damaged by people in the organization.Something is very fishy with this organization.I wish I trusted my gut.In all the years I practiced I kept a very long arms distance.I studied other things and learned alot.Most people in sgi are very limited what they put in their heads.It is as if Mr Ikeda is their hero.It is really uncomfortable for me.I trust my git and stay far away.I am much happier since I left dispite the fact that I was brainwashed into believing if I left the sky would fall on me.
I find all your comments incredibly judgemental and righteous by attacking other Buddhist teachings including SGI you are no better just the same, judge the individual practicing not all buddhists are the same , choose the Buddhism that works for your own life based on mutual respect, tolerance and love and if s Jew chooses to become a Buddhist and chant and they are happy then why not, good for them , these posts are terribly hypocritical and judgemental and considerably non Buddhist. NAM-MYHO-RENGE-KYO ….Om Mani Padme Hum….Om shanti shanti shanti…SHALOM Whatever WORKS for U!
You are a very serious Buddhist indeed! Wow man the generalisation you supposedly dislike are used on the SGI members, that is really funny: do you see that?
I am an SGI member and observe that humanity tries to ‘convert’ others to their own ways, it is not a trait particular to SGI members, clearly. I do not try to convert anyone. I work on myself, observing the principle of the oneness of self and environment. I believe we are all equal, sometimes equally prejudice, it’s not all farting and football you know.
Trying to say that there is one Buddhist way is unhelpful as there are so many sects and culturally diverse practices. I wish you peace. Nam Myoho Renge Kyo. Or whatever works for you.
I feel sorry for u tula its a cowards approach by not addressing this brain washing behavior u sound like u need to read more
nam myo ho renge kyo
Those people are bunch of fools that working hard to brainwash those who does not know teh true. I am a jew and its sad there’s are so many jews in that organizations, tehy have over 190,000 members around the world. SGI is a business religion. SGI its all about monies, brainwash, manipulations. I have been there they office in East Manhattan, N.Y they try so hard to converted me when I refused they became nasty. They want you to purchases their books, and the scrolls the want you to have cost $20 plus you must sign up with their 2 of their yearly magaizines one cost $10 and the other $20. the box that hold their scroll for the alter cost $40 and up then they want you to recited ‘ NAM-MYOHO-RENGE-KYO’ for all I know I really do not know the true meaning to that word, for all I care I might be chanting that word for satan to have my soul. Anyway, I been there after lest then 2 week I bounce the heck out. I feel sad because so many people are being washes and blinds especially the jews, after all I am a jew. SGI is another money brainwash manipulations religion in my eyes. They claims you must follow your mentors and they want you to buy their high prices expensives books that they created every month all they want you to recited this book they called ” LOTUS SUTRA” that’s fool of words that make no sence.
Those people are bunch of fools that working hard to brainwash those who does not know the true. I am a jew and its sad there’s are so many jews in that organizations, they have over 190,000 members around the world. SGI is a business religion. SGI its all about monies, brainwash, manipulations. I have been there they office in East Manhattan, N.Y they try so hard to converted me when I refused they became nasty. They want you to purchases their books, and the scrolls cost $20.00, plus you must sign up with their 2 magazines for year those magaizines one cost $10 and the other $20. the box that hold their scroll for the alter cost $40 and up then they want you to recited ‘ NAM-MYOHO-RENGE-KYO’ for all I know I really do not know the true meaning to that word, for all I care I might be chanting that word for satan to have my soul. Anyway, I been there after lest then 2 week I bounce the heck out. I feel sad because so many people are being brainwashes and are blinds especially the jews, after all I am a jew. SGI is another money brainwash manipulations religion in my eyes. They claims you must follow your “mentors” and they want you to buy their high prices expensives books, articles, materials-stuffs that they created every month, they want you to recited this book they called ” LOTUS SUTRA” that’s fool of words that make no sence.
Anyway, I had my shares with them, oh before I forgot their are liars also, promises things and never follow.
I agree. The SGI members that I know do not practice or even seem to understand the connection between wanting and suffering. I often hear, “Oh I have to chant. I must chant twice a day!”
When asked what would happen if they didn’t chant, or didn’t want to chant, the response is often full of resentment and contempt.
It doesn’t sound like the teachings of the Buddha to me. I find it criminal that SGI even calls itself “Buddhism”. They’ve hijacked the name but none of the teaching or the meaning.
people are not all the same ,we are all human beings not always being human . we have to look to our selves with an open heart ,then and only then we will not need to criticise another . live in your own truth to join to eachother ,all roads lead to the same ,the is no separateness i am you you are me.
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I think that the SGI may be made up of bigots. It is a very political bunch.
In some countries, SGI has played a pivotal role in politics. Religion should not be political. SGI should not be attacking other Buddhists. It happens all the time. I was a member of SGI for a long time. I heard other SGi people say bad things about many Buddhists.
I hope that others will not be lured into this group.
Chanting is an easy thing to do and they claim they can chant for anything like SEX, MONEY, JOBS. It is a very selfish approach to Buddhism. Meditation and the study of the dhamma or dharma is much better in Theravada or Tibetan Buddhism. SGI seems dangerous to me, because their President Ikeda has them practically hypnotized.
YOUNG PEOPLE, STAY AWAY FROM SGI, PLEASE. Go to the real Buddhism if you want to be a Buddhist. I found SGI to be a chaotic playground of lay people. Very few actually study the word of Buddhism. I found them to be highly negative, arrogant, and critical of other religious groups. TRUE BUDDHISTS DO NOT TRY TO CONVERT ANYONE. TRUE BUDDHISTS ACCEPT ALL RELIGIONS. SGI is a big worry to me. Please, stay away from SGI.