Without reincarnation, all of the Buddha’s teachings lose their value and meaning.
Andy you are wrong and your answer shows how very little you know about Buddhism. If you would like me to explain this to you, please email me.
Andy, you may think you’re right but you’re simply not. I very much hope that you will study Buddhism a bit more to understand the misconception you have.
Wrong- Buddhists don’t believe in reincarnation. It’s rebirth which is a different thing altogether.
Edit- Actually I’m right and conceit isn’t a very Buddhist trait. No need for any email discussion thanks.
Buddhists believe in Rebirth not reincarnation, yes they’re different enough to matter. They really are not the same thing no matter how much you want to believe that they aren’t. You seem to have gone off the deep end.
It’s nice to question things but one, its not very buddhist like to attack others or others beliefs, its okay to question but you are very blatently attacking. Also you don’t fully understand the topics that you’re covering anyway, or rather you know just enough to be dangerous but not enough to know. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
It’s not really a pillar, its not true that all else falls apart when you dont believe in that. It’s like saying ‘if you dont believe man came from monkeys then evolution falls apart’ no thats not the only part of evolution theres a lot more to it.
Actually Jack, according to the teachings of the Buddha, the Hindu notion of reincarnation, that is the shedding one human body and the immutable self being reincarnated into a new body but containing the same self is wrong. The fundamental core teachings of Buddhism revolve around rebirth. There is a significant difference. The Buddha taught two core principles that differentiated Buddhist reincarnation from rebirth. 1) Anatta (anatman) or “not-self” or the absence of limiting self-identity in people and things. 2) Anicca (anitya) or Impermanence. Without a permanent self, there can be no reincarnation. Rebirth on the other hand is different. Buddhism teaches that Vijnana, or consciousness, is like the flame of a candle. While it may appear to be one flame without end on a candle, the truth is that the flame is always changing as the gasses of the candles fuel burn away. The same is true with us. Our “consciousness” is made up of all our skandhas (aggregates[form, sensation, perception, mental formation and consciousness]) A change in one causes a change in all. NONE of these are unchanging. When the body dies, the skandhas break apart and are reused. Form sensation, perception mental formations are all gone, what consciousness is there? Just as the body fades into water and dust to be reused by other living things our consciousness goes it own way either to the higher realms, the lower realms or we return as a human…and when we attain enlightenment, then we leave it all behind and achieve nirvana. First as a living breathing being and then as a Buddha or bodhisattva. However, it is perfectly clear that Mr. Jack does not die and come back and Mr. Jack 2.0. Once the body is dead, that which made the person Mr. Jack is no more and he is gone forever…but the consciousness that was Mr. Jack…that was 1/5 if Mr. Jack moves on. Just as the flesh rejoins the Earth the consciousness goes on to form a new being. Reincarnation is the rebirth of the self in a new body. Rebirth is the continuation of the Vijnana (consciousness) to a new form. And while the difference may seem minute, the significance to Buddhism is enormous.
Or so are the teachings of the Mahayana schools of Buddhism.
(Now keep in mind, that often, a Bodhisattva who chooses to be reborn in the realm of humans is sometimes referred to as being ‘reincarnated’ in the English language, but that is still not accurate since even a Buddha has no self and thus there is no ‘self’ to be reincarnated.)
I hope this helps.
i thought its rebirth not reincarnation…you ask a lot of stupid questions are you just trying to make other people mad?
The reincarnation idea reinforces that the need of enlightenment in order to break out from the rebirth cycle. The reincarnation is only part of the Buddhist belief. There are also other important teaching that consists of the Buddha Law. A good Buddhist reads the teaching in the scripture to open his wisdom to be enlightened.
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Not all Buddhists are Vajrayanists. You don’t have a monopoly on the Buddha’s teachings.
Here’s some tidbits from Suttas that are universally recognized as canonical by all Buddhist sects:
Mind-Body Materialism (i.e., mind and body are one, not separate)
Sammaditthi Sutta, Verse 42: Feeling is born of the sense organs and brain, and without them there is no feeling. Verse 58: All consciousness depends on the sense organs and brain, and without them there is no consciousness.
Alagaddupama Sutta, Verse 26, & Mahapunnama Sutta, Verse 12: the Buddha points out that material form, along with feeling, perception, formations, and consciousness, are impermanent.
Madhupindika Sutta, Verse 18: the Buddha says that the sense organs and brain are the primary source of feeling, perception, and thinking, and in their absense these things could not exist.
PaÃ±cattaya Sutta, Verse 7: the Buddha says that consciousness cannot exist without material form, feeling, perception, and formations.
Nandakovada Sutta, Verse 10: it says that it is incongruous to say that the sense organs are impermanent but that the feeling that arises from them is permanent.
If the Buddha held that the mind was dependent on the body, how could he have held that there is reincarnation?
Furthermore, the Buddha clearly taught the doctrine of anatta, or “no soul.”:
Alagaddupama Sutta, Verse 23 & Sabbasava Sutta, Verse 8: the Buddha says that belief in a soul is a form of attachment and leads to sorrow.
If the Buddha held that there is no soul, how could he have held that there is reincarnation?
Also, the Buddha argued against the existence of life after death.
Alagaddupama Sutta, Verse 25: the Buddha said, since there is no proof of the soul, believing in life after death is foolish.
Aggivacchagotta Sutta, Verses 16 &19: Vaccha asks the Buddha where the mind of the Tathagata (Buddha) goes after death. The Buddha explains to him that, when a fire is extinguished, one does not ask “where did the fire go?”; it is simply gone.
If the Buddha held that life after death is impossible, how could he have held that there is reincarnation?
Finally, la piÃ¨ce de rÃ©sistance:
In the Mahatanhasankhaya Sutta, Sati claims the Buddha teaches that consciousness reincarnates from one body to another. The Buddha chastises him and asks him, quote, “to whom have you ever known me to teach the Dhamma in that way?” The Buddha then repeats that consciousness depends on the sense organs; without them, there can be no consciousness.
Therefore, not only did the Buddha teach principles that are inconsistent with reincarnation, he directly, outrightly rejected the doctrine of reincarnation in no uncertain terms.
I’m sorry, honey, but you’re suffering from what the Buddha would call “attachment to a particular view”.
1. Life is generally a pile of shite
2. That is because we want things to be different than they are
3. If we stopped wanting things to be different, the pile of shite would go away
4. And here’s how to do it …
Yeah, makes perfect sense to me, with or without any “back into the meat” theory.