Discussion Forum

Theists, would you welcome serious scientific study of mundane manifestations of your religion?

If researchers came into your place or worship and wanted to study things like religious ecstasy, perception of the divine, prayer, meditation, glossolalia, ritual, miracles, magic, etc. would you welcome their presence and their findings?

2nd Q – Do you believe that mundane manifestations of religion can be studied scientifically or are all things related to religion outside the scope of natural phenomena?

18 Comment threads
0 Thread replies
0 Followers
 
Most reacted comment
Hottest comment thread
1 Comment authors
Heathen PrincessLuke Was HereStellaAlorerMaya R Recent comment authors
  Subscribe  
newest oldest most voted
Notify of
Heathen Princess
Guest
Heathen Princess

Sure, go for it.

But we don’t really have any of that nor would I expect any ground breaking results.

I think we can examine religion on a psychological and neurobiological level and I apply that at an academic level all the time. I think we can and do find things linking thought patterns and processes to religion through science. It doesn’t PROVE religion or disprove, it only shows how it works in our head and I think that’s pretty cool.

Luke Was Here
Guest
Luke Was Here

I’d love to! Wouldn’t likely change my beliefs unless you could prove that Pantheism is not a viable belief, or you had some shocking evidence for non-existence! ^.^

Theist doesn’t mean you have a religion btw. You can believe in a higher power or existence without being religious!

Peace and Knowledge! 🙂

Stella
Guest
Stella

Sure. 🙂 My beliefs don’t require me to disregard science. About the only things I actually believe in that science cannot prove or disprove are the existence of deities and the existence of souls. But I’m open to questioning anything and everything. As for the second part of your question, I’m not sure… as I’ve said there are some things that can’t be definitively proved or disproved today. There are some things I think science may be able to explain someday, but I don’t know what would have to happen to make “proving” a deity’s existence possible. I’d also agree… Read more »

Alorer
Guest
Alorer

I don’t believe in anything supernatural. How can supernatural exist when Nature is EVERYTHING?
Although I wouldn’t prevent science from trying to study these things, I doubt it is advanced enough currently to have any real results from experimentations. Some things simply are out of its grasp. Science isn’t the beginning and end of everything: it’s about all things physical. Whether or not exists something non-physical (like sentient energy) it can’t study it. At least for the time being 🙂

Maya R
Guest
Maya R

As one who can vividly recall being another person in my previous incarnation, to the point where I took my parents to visit the family whose daughter I used to be before I died at the age of twelve, I would welcome any serious scientific investigation of this. I proved it fairly easily for both families sinceI was able to recall names and events and also where I had hidden my rag doll before I died. I know all this sounds bizzare and fantastical, which is what I have always bumped into when I mention this. What would be the… Read more »

That Damned Heathen
Guest
That Damned Heathen

I wouldn’t mind it at all. I don’t know about others in my religion though. Some are pretty particular about who they even let see their rituals, let alone study them. And I think their findings will only go so far. Much like it has with ESP and other forms of “magic” (poor word, I know). I think they can only be studied so far. Much like the ecstacy some claim within some religions. You will see it manifest within the person, may even be able to take blood to find the levels of endorphins, etc But I doubt you… Read more »

Jeancommunicates
Guest
Jeancommunicates

And you think this is new and that it has not been going on for centuries. Sir Isaac Newton did a great study of both science and the Creator. All things are related to God and since there are only 2 religions: God’s way and man’s way, the scientific study done by man will have faults, but the Word of God has no faults. God is truth. If more scientists would study and know the Word of God, the Holy Bible, God would make more of the supernatural known to them. All good gifts come from above and without God… Read more »

David N
Guest
David N

Sure…

I’d love to see what they have to say about Eastern Orthodoxy (especially monasticism!)

Although I must say that rationalism and mysticism don’t mix very well.

BERT
Guest
BERT

Well being an Atheist, I don’t have any Religious practices or rituals. I don’t believe in gods or miracles. I believe in what can be and has been proven. Prove that there is such a thing as god or any divinity, and you will have converted me. Faith is BS. If god existed and Jesus existed and the bible isn’t just fairy tales, there would be some sort of proof. Organized religion is the biggest BS story that has ever been told and because it was told in a time before modern science and a decent understanding of the world… Read more »

Insomniac
Guest
Insomniac

We can and do. Specifically natural theology, a.k.a. the psychology of religion, which deals solely in the scientific study of religion.

Anything that is physical can be objectively analysed. Especially if it can be reduced to math.

Mark
Guest
Mark

Very good question. I find people get shaken when you question the faith. They need it intact. It helps them. I don’t mind them having it as long as they keep it contained. It becomes like a virus for them, they want to spread it.

MSB
Guest
MSB

I don’t think anything lies outside the scope of natural phenomena.

If people were respectful I’d have no problem with them studying.

It does not garauntee I would agree with their findings but really it wouldn’t effect me one way or the other.

Priรciℓℓα ☼
Guest
Priรciℓℓα ☼

Yes, I absolutely would welcome such studies and many have already been conducted with very interesting results.

I think that the manifestations of religious practice can be studied scientifically, but because science is necessarily naturalistic, the results of these studies can only go so far as to tell us about the natural aspects of these manifestations. Not a complete picture, but still very interesting and informative.

vine
Guest
vine

NO IT ONLY MATTERS WHAT GOD THINKS….HE GIVEs ETERNAL LIFE THEY DONT..!!!!!!!!!!!

corinthians
Guest
corinthians

1Cor.14:34-35 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

lawrenceba549
Guest
lawrenceba549

Absolutely. However, science can never explain the soul, so while science would explain some things rationally, it will fall well short on other issues that are essential to theistic belief.

Mr. McC
Guest
Mr. McC

yes and yes

LN1992.The.Manias
Guest
LN1992.The.Manias

If theists studied anything in a scientific way, then It would be just a matter of time before they become agnostics or even Atheists!.

1.- Anybody likes to be disturbed in their house… maybe they are going around streets claiming that Jesus appeared in a toast, or that Harry Potter is the Anti-christ…

2.- Of course, the ghost busters exist for that kind of things!