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the cosmology of right-wingers and those toward the left.?

I was talking with some Buddhist friends of mine the other day (a mixed bunch, including teachers, a mail man, some vets, etc) and something occured to me —– I looked over some right-wing writings, then talked to some more people like the Buddhists, then some other folks on the left, and it all was clear. If you look at cosmological/philosophical/spiritual positions which say that all things are connected, all people are connected, that all actions have larger implications (karma, etc), that what I do to another I do to myself, etc. — those people seem to be overwhelmingly liberal or to the left (if they have a political inclination). Those whose are “conservative” or toward or in the right wing tend to denty those things previously stated —— they seem to deny that all things are connected, that all people are connected, that larger implications exist in the sense that karma relates them, or that what I do to another has as deep an impact on me.
Opinions? Thoughts???
His Divine Shadow —
1st — calm down, relax, breathe.
2nd — I said SEEM to. Look carefully.
3rd — that being said, can you calm yourself and offer some insight?
(thanks)
Hillbilly —
have to ask, are they practcing Buddhists? (themselves?)
crimson —
have to admit I wasn’t going for a discussion of whether a person should have to work (which DOES bring up old inaccuracies about liberals, Dems, and so forth believing some people should just have things handed to them), or whether those more to the left think some people should be treated like royalty. That isn’t true either, and I guess part of this is a little scary. WHAT people are those that the conservatives would believe will be told they are “royalty”, and will just be able to sit around and not work? See where this seems to go? Kinda creepy. And, again, this isn’t the discussion I was going for …
His Divine Shadow —
thanks for the offer at the end there, but I must decline.
I don’t know what I’m supposed to “lose” here, since I didn’t want to win anything.
crimson —
I do appreciate you chiming in (same to everyone). Keep them coming???!?
Khetamenti —
thanks.
level4 —-
hmm, gotta admit that I do not see our government as liberal and left-leaning.
yet.
the congress notwithstanding.
I do agree that “perfection” is not possessed by those of any political persuasion.

7 COMMENTS

  1. “Those whose are “conservative” or toward or in the right wing tend to denty those things previously stated —— they seem to deny that all things are connected, that all people are connected, that larger implications exist in the sense that karma relates them, or that what I do to another has as deep an impact on me.”
    That is a loaded assumption if I have every heard one, not to mention a sweeping generalization. I’ll add “irresponsible” to the list of adjectives too unless you can actually support this statement with a reasonable argument.
    Edit: So just because your question uses weasel words, that makes it ok? Sorry man, you lose. Your intentions were clear – I am sure you won’t be sharing the same insight about your choice of words with people who happen to agree with you.
    As far as what insight I can offer, you are the one making the argument here, not me. I am not about to posit that either liberals or conservatives have a monopoly on any particular form of philosophy because I don’t have any evidence supporting either argument.
    You would be wise to learn from my example.

  2. That is why Buddhism is so much cooler. No but like on YA where most people are conservatives, you are going to probaly make a lot of people hate Buddhism.

  3. I have always believed in the inter connectivity of all life on this planet. You may do something seemingly mundane and it can have a profound effect on someone you never even noticed. I feel that the Buddhist beliefs are truly valid and if I were to go to religious services, I would lean toward Buddhism. I have been a conservative Republican my whole life (this time).

  4. My best friend is Buddhist, and from Vietnam, She says their Socialist way of life is horrible, she lives in Seattle now and is a Republican, and so is the rest of her Buddhist family

  5. I have actually dipped my toe in the metaphorical pool that is Buddhism, and I disagree with you completely. My beliefs center around the fact that what you do has a direct effect on others, and that karma does indeed give back to you what you put forth in the first place.
    However-
    I consider myself a conservative.
    Although, I must admit that the more of politics that I absorb, the more that I think I am more of a moderate leaning toward conservatism.
    And I am definitely NOT a close-minded person.
    I just believe that everyone should have to work for what they get. I have all of my life. And no one should get a free ride. Otherwise, our country will be full of people who think that they should get something for nothing. Which increasingly seems to be the case, and that is a very sad thing indeed.
    There are a lot of people out there who feel that they are done an injustice by not being treated like they are royalty, but they are not doing anything to change that fact.
    If you work toward a goal, eventually you will reach it. And if you don’t, then at least you tried. And you should never give up! Because nothing worth trying for is easy.

  6. This is a very good question. The difference in this modern age, is that the Dali Lama will not put himself above the people he represents. This will be hard to find in almost every other region in the modern world. The conservatives are not perfect, neither are the liberals. An individual conservative or liberal my feel this way, but to suggest that a liberal, left leaning government, such as ours, feels karma, and feels that what they do to others will reflect on them, is optimistic at best. They are looking out for themselves, the very opposite of karma.

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