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question for wiccans pagans practitioners?

dont you think that most of the ritual is based on invocation, were the spirit is the authority of your body, dont u think its safer to perforn an evocation than invocation,

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  1. Well, I was never Wiccan, but when I perform ritual craft, it is evocation as opposed to invocation.
    This causes some issues with friends I do circle with. But, they understand my style, so roll with it.

  2. safer how and safer for who? maybe that spirit dont want to play with you, and you are pissin it off evoc or invoc.

  3. I think that everything boils down to intent and the purpose for the work / magick that is needed. But, I am still a newbie, even after 4 years . . . Blessed Be, Wynter Ravyn.

  4. Er, in most Wiccan contexts invocation does NOT involve drawing a spirit into your body — that’s more of a Santeria thing.
    In most cases the God and Goddess are invoked into the circle, but not into the practitioners within that circle.
    There is a ritual called drawing down the moon in which the Goddess is invoked specifically into a willing priestess, but that is for really advanced practitioners because yes, it can do a number on your head if you’re not prepared for it.
    EDITED TO ADD: And once again we run into the issue of the same term meaning different things in different contexts. You use the terms invocation and evocation for what is, the way I was taught, simply called invocation of varying degrees of depth.
    But to answer your question, yes, using your definitions, I believe that evocation is the “safer” route to go, insofar as the term “safe” can be used in any ritual context.

  5. Why do you think so?
    “invocation
    The act or form of calling for the assistance or presence of some superior being; earnest and solemn entreaty; esp., prayer offered to a divine being.
    A call or summons; especially, a judicial call, demand, or order; as, the invocation of papers or evidence into court.
    Retrieved from “http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/invocation”
    “Noun
    evocation
    The act of calling out or forth.”
    Retrieved from “http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/evocation”

  6. In an interesting way, you have raised a question which has many other questions, with few answers that will be anything other than biased.
    My belief is that most people who practice a ritual where an individual or group moves Power towards an end, must first use an evocation, yes?
    As for whether the Power to achieve an unspecified end lies in a single person’s spirit, well I have a hard time speculating.
    It seems to me that invocation is the safer. Though, in the end, while I continue to seek many things and do many Rituals, I will continue to Invoke and maintain the Vigil of my Faith.

  7. It greatly depends on the ritual being performed.
    I was taught
    Invoke: to call into, to bring power/deity into a thing or being
    Evoke: to call out of, to call forth.
    I find neither one to be more dangerous as long as you follow the intent of the ritual.

  8. In my tradition – invocation is respectful and evocation is not because it suggests calling a spirit against its will. We don’t believe in trying to control or command spirits or deities. Oh – and invocation doesn’t mean calling something into us. Our definition is basically an invocation is a respectful invitation or calling to deity.

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