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Is the holy spirit the Kundalini?

Is it related?
And does anyone know why the New Testament apocrypha were decided to not be included in the bible?
World Funeral,
True, but is it not the same concept only deemed different due to the different Eastern and Western cultures?
LOL Panda… 🙂 Yes, you got me! Everything is related, but you know what I mean, right?
I am trying to understand if people from various religions are using different terms to reference the same ‘phenomenon’…
But can the meanings of the terms be actually the same thing? I don’t really place too much importance on which culture named/discovered ‘it’ first….I would like opinions on whether or not they could in fact be the same thing.
Another psychological term could be self-realization or ‘peak experiences’ studied by Maslow in more recent times.

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  1. The apocrypha were not included in the Bible, because the books were not considered reliable testimony. Either the authorship was completely unknown, or it was clear the writers were not eyewitnesses to the life of Jesus, nor did the writers know the disciples.
    Those were the basic standards for which books were included.

  2. +1 to the first poster. Kundalini is much much older. Kundalini phenomena can be misinterpreted as the “holy spirit” as Kundalini seems to be a part of every living human, and any person of any religion could call out the power if he knows how. Many Christians say Kundalini is a demon, but she is a Hindu goddess who appears to be among the most present gods in today’s time (not that I am a Hindu, but that Kundalini was discovered by the Hindi).

  3. No connection.
    The Holy Spirit comes to reveal Jesus Christ to the soul:
    “If you love me (Jesus), you will obey what I command. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever– the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you……But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you…………”When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me. And you also must testify, for you have been with me from the beginning……..Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment: in regard to sin, because men do not believe in me; in regard to righteousness, because I am going to the Father, where you can see me no longer; and in regard to judgment, because the prince of this world now stands condemned.
    “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you. All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you. ”
    John 14:15-18, 26; 15:26-27; 16:7-15

  4. Here are some interesting Wiki excerpts:
    “There are some Christian groups who teach that the Holy Spirit is feminine, or has feminine aspects. Most are based on the genders of the verbs in the original Bible languages where the Holy Spirit is the subject. In Hebrew the word for spirit (ruach) is feminine.[25] In Greek the word (pneuma) is neuter,[25] and in Aramaic, the language which is generally considered to have been spoken by Jesus, the word is feminine.”
    “Shakti is the concept, or personification, of divine feminine creative power, sometimes referred to as ‘The Great Divine Mother’ in Hinduism…Shakti is cosmic existence as well as liberation, its most significant form being the Kundalini-shakti[3], a mysterious physiopsychospiritual force”
    Interesting that both the Holy Spirit and Kundalini-shakti are feminine manifestations of divine energy. There very well could be a connection.

  5. Hi there!
    Kundalini” literally means coiling, like a snake. In the classical literature of hatha yoga kundalini is described as a coiled serpent at the base of the spine. The image of coiling, like a spring, conveys the sense of untapped potential energy. Perhaps more meaningfully kundalini can be described as a great reservoir of creative energy at the base of the spine. It’s not useful to sit with our consciousness fixed in our head and think of kundalini as a foreign force running up and down our spine. Unfortunately the serpent image may serve to accentuate this alien nature of the image. It’s more useful to think of kundalini energy as the very foundation of our consciousness so when kundalini moves through the sushumna and through our cakras our consciousness necessarily changes with it.
    It again this is self reliance of ourselves,and where has human rulership taken us? God knows better!
    .Peace and tranquility to you Kasey!

  6. In a sense it is, but not completely so. Some of its aspects from my understanding of it center in the human psyche, and are not related to God as we think of God. As far as related, all religions from Islam on back have become a great deal of myth and superstition. Shorn of the accumulated myth and superstition, the accumulated dreck and dross of misunderstandings and misinterpretations, all religions are one. The purpose of the Baha’i Faith is to rid religions of those myths and superstitions so we can hand in hand build world peace.

  7. Kundalini by definition means the is which is dormant in a pot, it is only the awakened kundalini, rising from the base of the vertebral column and reaching and blooming in the brain is akin to the holy spirit.

  8. EVERYTHING is the Holy Spirit. All of creation is made up of concentrated spiritual energy and the source of that energy is not separate from its creation but omnipresent within it. Like a hologram, “should I withdraw My hand…..” the lights go out: the universe must remain plugged in or it ceases to exist. Taken to a logical extreme, one might think of it as though all that exists does so within the mind of God.
    The selection of what was to be included in the New Testament was very political. Christianity was born out of Monotheistic Judaism, then concentrated in one man, rephrased and significantly altered in the Greek language by Paul and then transplanted into the pantheistic Roman system of not only “many Gods” but most significantly into an atmosphere where the Emperor automatically assumed Divine Status (as symbolized by a “halo” of Light emanating from his head in the pictures). It is no wonder at all that Jesus would just naturally be assumed to be a Son of God; there was no other way the Romans could see the thing. It began to become the official version at the Council of Nicaea.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea
    In deciding what was to be included and excluded from the New Testament it was done by political leaders, not religious leaders (since the Emperor had taken control of deciding important Church matters. This was due to tax exemption; government had to decide what and who qualified as Christian and therefore got very involved in settling arguments.)
    Indeed, the very question of the alleged Divinity of Jesus was decided by the Emperor (Himself Divine), not the clergy.
    There were a great many contending parties, each trying to turn official Doctrine to their view. The resulting New Testament was a political compromise.

  9. Not really. Spirit is the essence of something. Kundalini is physically measurable as an energy.
    I would equate holy spirit with our higher consciousness, we become whole, at one, when we reconnect the 7 aspects of ourselves using the kundalini energy. Our 7th aspect only appears to be external because it does not reside within the human body, but floats slightly above our crown. That is why the sensation of light is always from above. It is generated physically as an electro magnetic energy field, our aura and energy body.
    People are so used to hearing their thinking selfs voice when they hear thier higher selfs voice they mistake it for a God.
    Practicing Shaman… quantum physics rocks.

  10. I admit I don’t know a whole lot about Kundalini as I don’t have a guru to guide me in the process and am under the impression that it can be dangerous to practice without a benevolent guide.
    In Buddhism the Holy Spirit has sometimes been equated to the energy of mindfulness, while God can be compared only to the concept of extinction or Nirvana.
    The Spirit of Nirvana, in my understanding, is the Tathata, or suchness–the underlying energy which manifests itself as the known world.
    Christians describe the Holy Spirit as expressing the following Characteristics: Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, and Self-control.
    If the Kundalini causes the individual to express these qualities, then I could definitely see the correlation.

  11. i believe the kundalini to be very powerful…and very mysterious. it is a dormant force that needs to be awakened.
    i think of the holy spirit as something that is always present..always has been..needs no awakening for it is never sleeping.

  12. Hmmmmm, hi dear one,
    can i tell you a secret, but keep it to yourself ok he he he
    there is a place where, you no longer question your own existance, where you dont spilt what you see, hear, smell, think, taste, touch.
    When all this sense combine with the `vessel of nothing` within you all of the other powers within will arise without you needing to activate it,
    but if you wanna activate all this powers within without realising you can too but you need a guru and make sure this guru is authentic and not some money making fake, I know even guru has to make a living but to make million out of something natural is something I dont beleive in, why do you need a guru ? because some people hallucinate or create illusions to something which is totally and absolutely natural, it only feels like something big cause they havent experiance it
    soul ? the empty vessel ? hmmm yeah, thats a difficult one to achive because its something you KNOW, and i mean totally KNOW without the interpretation of others, Simply know IT, as you search for it you will REALISE it, cause the questions you are asking is getting there, the thing is I cannot simply tell you because being human we all must put emotional value upon it to know it and I dont wanna take your journey away, it doesnt even want you to know what is it until you know who you are. get what I mean ?
    Yeah i sound stupid, and i sound mystifying i know, but to be honest I wish I could simply tell you, But its one of its rule, for everyone not only know thru the scriptures or bible, but to REALISE. We can all say and tell from the books, or know it, but its a diffrient thing to REALISE it, Once you have REALISE it and merge with it you dont even have to think about all the natural resources you have within you, it kinda happens naturally
    They call it enlightment, self realization, nirvana, christ conciousness, cosmic conciousness but the thing here is, it is nothing magical, it is seated within every man and women, its been there when we were born and we lost it when we were growing up because of so many concepts and things thrown upon the mind,
    Enlightment,self realization,nirvana, christ conciousness, cosmic conciousness is only the beggining
    ITS THE BEGINNING,
    for once you manage to get all together that is within you together then you will get IT. IT is simply the most natural thing in the world and wasnt really seperated from you in the first place.
    Then it will open you up your life like a flower, It will teach you all you need to know about in your own life yet lets you learn thru your experiances without taking your human emotions or experiances away. It never takes away your choice to choose from free will
    Then it will teach you certain secrets of nature, but IT wont tell you this secrets until you are totally honest to yourself and respect nature itself.
    Here is some of ITs rules for me, its not for everyone but for me
    1) I am to say things and let others to choose from what I say
    2) Respect nature the way it is and protect it when I can
    3) Lose my attachment to my own race or religion
    4) My life is my religion and my church is the whole world
    5) To feel my emotions and arrange them to the balance order of peace and not denying them
    6) To not to push the knowledge I know upon others, and let others shape the knowledge how they want to shape it
    7) I cannot take another persons journey away simply because they need to seek for it to have value within them and this will make them respect themselves
    8) I gotta learn to seperate my own view of the world if im telling my opinion and my opinion should something that balances the view point of everyone because in public there must be a sense of balance in knowledge so it wont be biased towards me or you or my race or my nation or oh well you get the point ?
    9) Embrace everyone, feel everyone, love their good values, forget and stay away from their bad value`s, know how to discriminate knowledge
    10) Hurt no one but follow your absolute honest truth from your heart for yourself and dont be affraid if someone gets hurt of your truth because if you look around everyone is living their lives according to their truths. you gotta live your life according to your own truth for you to have some direction in your life, dont be affraid of making mistakes in this because if your truth is false and the moment you realise and accept it as false then you are following the truth again, the worst thing to do is to be “hanging“
    hmmmmmmmm actually that thing is non stop you know, but you must know how to “chanell“ it into your life first before it could develope into others, but its not owned by you, allways remember that. you gotta let it free, dont try to jail it, you can only chanell it into your life
    why am I telling you all this ?
    So that you dont have to run around in circle,
    so that you will know how to discriminate knowledge so that you wont be a

  13. Kundalini is referring to that knowledge which we already know deep within our souls. Not so much the entity of “god”, but possibly you could make a hairy connection to the spirit that lies dormant within each of us.

  14. .
    I have had different experiences with Kundalini energy, to that of the energy of the Holy Spirit.
    I can only give you personal experience and am no expert on this at all.
    Kundalini energy seems to be very strong and powerful. When it moves in the body, it can be felt as quite a surging force. Usually an upwards force from base of spine and up to, and out of top of head.
    I felt this very strongly when initiated into 2nd Degree Reiki. Perhaps the energy was channelled through me by the initiator, as I have not felt it since.
    Holy Spirit energy seems much gentler to me. The energy seems to have a very loving element attached to it, and releases emotional and physical blocks in me and sometimes my body moves automtically as it sheds them. I feel this energy every day…. it is accompanied by a feeling of love and complete peace of mind.
    I would imagine they are of the same Source, and I don’t know quite why I experience them in different ways.
    I am also very familiar with the Violet Flame energy source, which to me seems very specific and easy to access. It removes all negativities on all levels of the mind and body, just by invoking it. It is my most valuable spiritual tool.
    They are probably all aspects of the same Energy, but manifest slightly differently according to expectations or circumstance or what is required at the time.
    The Apocryphal books are in my Bible, which is a Roman Catholic Bible. These books are also in Greek Orthodox Bibles. I’m not sure why they are left out of other Christian Bibles.
    As always, this is just my humble opinion.
    Namaste

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