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Is the dissolution of ego a decision, a process, an agreement, an ongoing observation, or something else?

“But this highest condition is difficult and must evidently take long to bring about; for the participation and consent of the Purusha to the transition is not sufficient, there must be also the consent and participation of the Prakriti….all the parts of our being must assent and surrender to the law of the spiritual Truth; all has to learn to obey the government of the conscious Divine Power in the members….For some of these parts are still subject to…the lower automatism of…mechanical habit of mind, habit of life, habit of instinct, habit of personality, habit of character, the ingrained mental, vital, physical needs, impulses, desires of the natural man, the old functionings of all kinds that are rooted so deep that it would seem as if we would have to dig to abysmal foundations in order to get them out.” The Life Divine, Sri Aurobindo, Book II, Chapter XXVI, pp. 964-65 (Lotus Press, Fourth Impression 2006)

Is the ego more complex and entrenched than we realize?
So many different responses…the ego is, the ego isn’t…the ego is an idea only, the ego serves a purpose…the perverting false ego vs. the ego being without which we could not be, etc. i consider this forum an open air market for healthy and spirited discussion, debate, and discourse. If ego is necessary, then what is its function? If ego is an idea only, then how does it form lifetime to lifetime, and is it different in each lifetime? Why is such emphasis put on ego (false ego) as the villain? Is there a difference between ego and false ego? i hear many different takes, opinions, approaches, views, experiences…can we rely on such a variety from so many to reveal the Reality? Many are adamant in their statements. Let’s continue the discussion in the next question?
Thimmappa M.S….your “little fellow” is an accurate and colorful description…i am smiling.

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Ego is not very complex or entrenched, it is something that is conditioned into us. All of us are born in a natural state of bliss, children seldom have ego problems. But as we grow up and are conditioned by the society, the ego problem comes to delude us into believing that we are the doers. To dissolve the ego we simply have to shed this false belief and come out of this delusion of our supremacy. It is very simple but the divine magic and our own ignorance makes it a unsurmountable barrier to realize our true selves, and… Read more »

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Something else…. Does Aurobindo actually use the term ‘ego’ or is that your own interpretation? I couldn’t find it… You mention Purusha (pure consciousness) and Prakriti (manifestation of consciousness)…do you associate the ego with Prakriti? In other words, are you suggesting the ego must consent to its own death? Why? I think you misunderstand the nature of ego… And if you do associate the ego with Prakriti, then you must concede that it is a manifestation of soul, and Aurobindo tells us that “soul actually and simultaneously dwells” in all of our bodies (structures), including the material, and therefore the… Read more »

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Al Ghazali surmised that the human condition is as if four things in one: wise man, devil, pig and dog; with pig representing sensuality, and dog representing hunger. He said, whereas the Philosophers will say: go kill your pig and dog; Al Ghazali said: “If you kill your pig, how can you feel love? If you kill your dog, how can you gain your strength? You have to purify; transform your pig into your pure love, and your hunger into pure aspiration, power and strength; so that the pig and dog become your two wings to fly toward God.” We… Read more »

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To me it is possible to have my ego become transparent, rather than to try to remove that which is an integral God given part of me. The ego is the part that differentiates us. It is the uniqueness. However, out of balance the ego is a hindrance and becomes a separator. So, if the standard understanding of the ego is e asing g od o ut then the correction for this would be to E xpress G od O penly This is not a ‘shortcut’ to the details of the Q. Indeed, it can be as lengthy and tricky… Read more »

deerwoman777
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deerwoman777

yes it is…good question by the way…i have come to realize that if we utilize spirit instead of ego…the world would be a much peaceful,honest place to live within…

deito
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deito

My beloved, a long time it seems, listen to the words of my heart with care. Dissolution of EGO, Is just gain of trust in cosmic consciousness. You stick to your ego, because that is the only thing you trust as of now at all the levels of being. please also understand that trust can not be more or less, its not even you have trust or you don’t. you cannot “have” trust, it is JUST you trust or you don’t. Once the trust is established in the purusha tattva, than you don’t stick to the limiting “I – ego”… Read more »

gora
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gora

Ego! Ego is either real or false! Ego is identity. To identify falsely is false ego. To identify properly is real ego. We have to understand what our true identity is, what the Absolute Truth is, and what our relationship with that Absolute Truth is. When we know that, understand it, accept it, fully relate to it at all times and in all circumstances and in every way possible and fully accept that the Absolute is inconceivable. Then we can begin to work on the level of real ego. Real ego means:– The Absolute Truth (God) is the Supreme Controller,… Read more »

Thimmappa M.S.
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Thimmappa M.S.

It is something else too and whether it is more complex and entrenched or not depends on how it is built up in the individual. Young child/infant is relaxed yet alert allowing attention to any thing and everything that comes along without discrimination or value judgement, busy looking hither and thither for no ‘purpose'(selfish), deeply relaxed and enjoying. Here, there is ego as it apprehends and holds it for oneself, though briefly, but lets go soon, fresh nevertheless – no remorse – and moves to hold the next thing along, without choice, without seeking. So, there is a way to… Read more »

NBM
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NBM

Once you evolve to a certain level of consciousness after enough incarnations, it is an imperative. Transcending the ego is a process and ongoing observation of reality which mirrors the hidden beliefs of this conditioned identity, making it possible to examine the origin of the beliefs which distort perception, feelings, thoughts and reactions. Return to essence/authentic being/true Self and one’s passion and purpose is not possible until the defensive ego system is gone from the subconscious. Living with it is not an option if you expect to accomplish what you are capable of accomplishing. Why? Because Reality is responsive to… Read more »

ysteban
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ysteban

I have no doubt it’s a process, it’s a growing metamorphosis which happens while you are alive in body. It’s sort of like withdrawing energy away from the structure of ego, by being meditative, and then when you are like that, then the awareness that is you ‘is in charge now’ and changes you while in that meditative state. ‘you’ don’t have to know how this is done, YOU just have to make the decision to get quiet, then it happens. I can tell you that it doesn’t happen in one fell swoop, because I have taken enough steps to… Read more »

brilliantly8tIndigosquirtAMVAVT
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brilliantly8tIndigosquirtAMVAVT

What ever it takes for each individual. Our egos all came about differently, therefore what works for one may not work for another. For me, it is about letting my spirit reign. No more duality. The more ego we release, the more we find. Things we never thought of as ego come popping out. I’m having war games with mine. My spirit takes a lot of hits, but it can take more than any ego can. lol

stripedspider
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stripedspider

All of the above.

Smokin' Dragon SDPETP
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Smokin' Dragon SDPETP

I agree with naughty, the process of self-awareness.

philosophyangel
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philosophyangel

I used to wrestle with and philosophize about this and practice, read, meditate, etc. to “transcend the ego” and all that for years and then I had a realization about the automaton and Consciousness and it made me very humble and miserable for a while, but in the long run, freer perhaps and i put away all the books and curbed my enthusiasm about all the groovy ideology and poesy. The ego on the one hand is a survival mechanism of the organism. It is also an aggregate of circumstance and experience and an aggregate of the inexorable karma of… Read more »

Jim
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Jim

Yes it is. After all, it has been developing all of your life, since conception. It dissolves slowly. Although some people have claimed to have sudden experiences of transcendent “cosmic consciousness”, those are always followed by “downs” where the seeker returns to normal life, only slightly different. Many more such experiences are needed to dislodge the ego. It requires daily effort, just like physical exercise, eating, etc.

Ennoae
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Ennoae

Ego is what glues spirit to flesh. We need ego to agree to stay out of the way of awareness. Ego creates our grandeur, but truth is perception without the veil of pride. If one doesn’t acknowledge the ego then the ego strengthens, as ego is fueled by fear of death and humiliation. If acknowledged it is weakened and it will give you permission to see truth. It can’t be fought by logic or fear; to fight ego is to fight your own mind. Consider how you must deal with the egos of other people to get them to understand… Read more »

Rez Rostov
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Rez Rostov

I think it is an ongoing, gradual process.
The self is a deep, subtle delusion; a product of our minds- thus very cunning and elusive. It will seek to subvert at every level.
Sustained concentration and lengthly observation of non-self is the way of practice.

cosmiccoyotie
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cosmiccoyotie

Male and female energy dancing, Purusha and Prakriti, Shiva and Shakti. Tantra is a rocket-ship to enlightenment, sexual energy raised transcends conditioning and brings us to the natural state *Glimmering* before time. Sex is the key, conditioning about sex the lock. : )

Edit: Of course there are many horse and buggy methods also. : )

naughty
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naughty

Dissolution of the ego is the result of self awareness.

dartagnon p
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dartagnon p

IMHO I believe that there comes a day when you wake up and you just give others the benefit of the doubt and you decide that there are certain priorities in life and arguing with others over insignificant things is NOT one of them. Some call it maturing, some call it enlightenment, others may call it apathy. In came over me in a flash after I had found out some rather distressing news about the govt in general and then specifically news about our local FBI, sheriffs dept, 1/2 of the local judges, most of the District Attorney’s office, the… Read more »