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Is it we who are to transform our Consciousness, or…?

are we simply to pay attention, observing Consciousness as It is…already present within us?
In the first choice, we take responsibility for our “doing,” while in the second choice, we re-cognize our “being,” making no effort whatsoever.
Will not this promised AWAKENING come to “be” when we let go of every preconception that falsifies who and what we are?
i see we have some thumbs down naysayers…all are welcome here…


  1. Yes we must evolve willingly back to our Godliness and back to our source of life and love, God. Or we can also play atheist and just die.

  2. True Consciousness is the Lord God.
    When we forfeit ‘self’ for God, we are transformed by His will, love and consciousness. We become one with The One Who IS Father of the All. He thinks, speaks, and acts through our being for His purpose. We serve as tools of His love and goodness for all.
    When we choose to retain self, our ego takes control of our consciousness. We must take responsibility for our thoughts, feelings, words and actions, good and bad.
    When we allow His Love to flow through us, we have no need to feel responsible for our being –
    God is in control! 😀
    Peace and Blessings

  3. There are innumerable methods and paths laid before us according to our own dispositions and states of being. There is no one method to bring the ego/mind to a standstill and allow the awareness a clear and undistorted view of Reality. We can take the natural route whereby we allow our consciousness to ride out the trials and confusions of lifetimes or, by sensing there may be a greater truth behind what the ego/mind can know, we can turn our awareness to a Master who has already escaped the slow evolution of consciousness and awakened in the conscious awareness of God. His Love and concern for our own awakening can guide us home to God. It is possible but rare that a soul can find its own way home without the grace of Jesus, Krishna, Padre Pio, one of the many Saints and Masters who have made the journey before us.

  4. Yes, no, I don’t know. 🙂
    You can do it, yes. Then no, no you can’t. And what will be will be I don’t know. 😉
    But hopefully good.
    okei 🙂

  5. I would willingly choose the second choice.
    It is a beautiful and gentle choice. A choice of peaceful surrender to what we already are. This choice allows all to be done without struggle or striving. We need do nothing of ourselves.
    It is for us simply to pay attention, and to observe Consciousness .. already present within us. A quiet watching allowing us to feel more and more deeply connected with, and absorbed by, and One with.
    🙂 🙂 🙂

  6. I like grinning cow’s answer…
    … the “promised awakening” is a pain in and of itself if you let it turn into just that – a promise. Wont be able to find it if you don’t let it go.

  7. Usually, when you finally surrender in total defeat, exhausted from trying to make it happen, just when your not looking for it anymore & in utter surprise, there it is!
    And it will be nothing like you expected!
    The key is not to attempt to transform this to that, but to simply clear a space for it Be.
    It is very simply & very patiently waiting for the space to manifest.
    Clear out the junk, & you find it was there all the time.
    Many Blessings!
    The word transform doesn’t feel right to me. It may appear on the outside to be a transformation, but within, you are still there, only a new & highly expanded version of what you think is you, minus a few outmoded parts.

  8. Both the concepts are half true, our consciousness is to be plugged in, to the super consciousness but even if we meditate with sweat of eye brows, without grace kindness and mercy of true Guru (सतिगुरू), one can not get success.
    बिनु सबदै अंतरि आनेरा ॥ Without the Lord’s Name there is all darkness within. न वसतु लहै न चूकै फेरा ॥
    One receives not the real thing and ends not the cycle of birth and death. सतिगुर हथि कुंजी होरतु दरु खुलै नाही गुरु पूरै भागि मिलावणिआ ॥७॥ In the True Guru’s hand is the key. None else can open the door. By perfect good luck the Guru is met.
    Here I remember the great instruction of Lord Krishna in Geeta that go on doing karmas of good deeds and the good fruit will be bestowed by Lord God Himself.
    (धर्म कर्म अभ्यास करता जा इच्छित फल भगवान् अपने आप देगा.)
    सतिगुरु धरती धरम है तिसु विचि जेहा को बीजे तेहा फलु पाए ॥ The True Guru is the field of faith. As a man sows there-in, so does he gather the fruit. गुरसिखी अम्रितु बीजिआ तिन अम्रित फलु हरि पाए ॥ The Guru’s disciples sow Nectar and obtain God as their Necterean fruit. ओना हलति पलति मुख उजले ओइ हरि दरगह सची पैनाए ॥ Their faces are bright in this world and the next one. In God’s true court they are clothed with robe of honour.{{{Guru Raam Daas Ji, Raag Gauree 302}}}

  9. Transform is from the Latin meaning to “thoroughly shape” something across its entirety.
    If you can define your consciousness entirely, then you can possibly know what you already have to enable you to target it all for changing its entire form/shape.
    As your consciousness is made of many images, how can you transform those images, and remain functional within society? If a cup is something else, then what will you use to drink out of?
    If you are going to leave some elements of consciousness un-transformed, then you are just going to mutate part of it. How will you decide what to shape? What is already in your consciousness is the only information you have with which to transform your consciousness. In effect, your question implies that you are separate from your consciousness: yet it is thought (consciousness) which is saying this. Without consciousness, who would ask the question?
    Further to this: Is your consciousness separate from the world around you, or connected?

  10. Consciousness is pure and perfect in its original nature and does not need any transformation, only, we must access and be it to transform us

  11. I think we are supposed to live our lives so that we eventually realise who we truly are ……..
    Pure Consciousness.
    We certainly are not the “doer” ………. I believe we have to become ready to accept “Grace” which is always available to those who are ready, ……. then everything becomes clear and probably nothing changes :)))
    Sai Ram

  12. Consciousness is . I am not . When the modifications of the mind stop, Consciousness shines in and out without interferences. We allow Consciousness by letting go of all our false identifications. Meditation (turn down the bla bla within) , understanding the functionning of the mind, wathching the modifications the mind in our actions is a way to invite Conscioussness. She is the Queen and she will accept our invitation only if we get out of the way. We can prepare for the feast and put a white cloth on the table, clean up the house, no dust.She comes with her street gang, pain, pleasure, lost, gain, honor, dishonor, friends and foes, vice and virtue. If we show any likes or dislikes, she will leave us with pain until we see her in all. She is the boss and she transforms us.

  13. Dear Sirius,
    A good meditation.
    Meditate on this:
    Who is this ‘me’ that attempts to awaken?
    Where is this ‘within’ where Consciousness resides?
    The ‘me’ and the ‘within’ that are mentioned are what we are not. If we observe and recognize all that we are not then we will eventually realize what we are.
    It is always best to begin with the Truth.
    It appears that we struggle, strive, search, work, etc. to find the truth of ourselves and to awaken. The reality is that once we ‘remember’ the Truth and ‘awaken’, we realize that we have never been away. We never really walked a path, struggled, searched or worked. We have always been the Self. We have always been Consciousness. Nothing has changed. No one has grown or become enlightened. Even the final surrender was an illusion.
    Relax. Live. Be.
    Thank you Sirius. Your questions are gems.
    If you are ever in Latvia let me know.

  14. We can not come to any rational conclusions as responsibility for our actions have been so eroded over the last few hundred years ie: We are driving a car and see a sign which has 60 on it, so someone is taking away our responsibility, in fact some one has placed themselves between me and my creator, saying ‘they know better than I do’, and this goes for almost everything we do, so how can we perceive of any responsibility?
    It’s the laws which dictates our responsibilities no matter what our consciousness tells us, without a heart, we would only be a machine.

  15. Who is observing ?
    Shiva I love you ! I love you ! I love you !
    are you gonna make her silent too ?
    you bad bad man, lol. You can`t cause she is here too. You lose Shiva wuuuuuuu huuuuuuuu. Crazy Blueman !

  16. Consciousness makes one aware of one’s own existence, sensations and thoughts and of one’s environment.
    Consciousness is the totality of attitudes, opinions, and sensitivities held or thought to be held by an individual. Webster’s II dictionary
    Consciousness as per sastras is not as explained in science. It means chita means chetna means knowledge. Soul gives one consciousness means one becomes knowledgeable of body. It is a symptom of soul. One is alive means he is conscious of his body.
    The Vedic scriptures explain that our consciousness shuttles between four states — jagruti (normal wakefulness), svapna (dream), sushupti (deep dreamless sleep) and samadhi (divine wakefulness). Our actual identity as souls, beloved children of God, is experienced in samadhi. Presently, though physically awake we are spiritually asleep.
    although we are engaged in a hard struggle to conquer nature, we are ever more dependent on her. This illusory struggle against material nature can be stopped at once by the revival of our Krishna consciousness.
    Krishna consciousness is not an artificial imposition of the mind; this consciousness is the original energy of the living entity. When we hear the transcendental vibration, this consciousness is revived. And this is the process recommended for this age by authorities.
    By practical experience also, one can perceive that by chanting this Maha-mantra or the Great Chanting for Deliverance, one can at once feel a transcendental ecstasy coming through from the spiritual stratum. And when one is factually on the plane of spiritual understanding-surpassing the stages of the senses, mind, and intelligence-one is situated on the transcendental plane.
    This chanting of Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare/Hare Rama, Hare Rama, Rama Rama, Hare Hare is directly enacted from the spiritual platform, and thus this sound vibration surpasses all lower strata of consciousness-namely sensual, mental, and intellectual.


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