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I'm looking for a Native American Sweat Lodge in Texas or Oklahoma. Can anyone help me?

BTW…I am a member of the Cherokee Nation and a registered card holder. Please, no lectures. I know what I’m doing.

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  1. I believe the Miami Tribe in northeastern Oklahoma (north of Miami) has one, but I’m not sure, and I’m not sure how to contact them.

  2. Not sure why you want one, but you do know that women are not allowed. I have friends that participate in them but they are very sacred. They are not tourist attractions so I doubt that anyone would give you access. Sorry.

  3. There are two reasons to be looking for information on Native American religions. The first, and easier to address, is educational. Either because you’re a student who’s been assigned to or just out of intellectual and cultural curiosity, you would like to learn more about how American Indians, or a particular tribe of American Indians, view the world. If that’s you, then your main problem is going to be identifying the authentic and trustworthy sources. Indians are happy to talk about their beliefs and spiritual practices, both historically and in the modern day. Unfortunately, so are plenty of ill-informed non-Indians (or people of Indian descent) who think they know a lot more than they do. And so are those unscrupulous souls willing to pretend they’re something they’re not in hopes of making a buck or getting a little attention. My best recommendation is to get a Native American book out of the library as well as looking on the Internet, since any quack shaman can put up a website but it’s a lot harder to publish a book. I also suggest ignoring and avoiding information about American Indian spirituality presented by anyone:
    1. Offering anything religious for sale. Money is never accepted by authentic holy people in exchange for Indian religious ceremonies like sweat lodges or sun dances, nor for religious items like medicine bags or smudged items. (They might sell arts and crafts, of course. Use your common sense–a devout Catholic might sell you a hand-carved crucifix to hang on your wall, for example, but he wouldn’t sell communion wafers over the Internet or charge you admission to bring you to his church! Selling dreamcatchers or fetish carvings online is one thing, but don’t believe information provided by anyone who is trying to charge people for smudging or blessing anything, making medicine, or letting them take part in a sweat lodge or dance. They are not authentic sources of information.)
    2. Inviting you into their religion on their webpage. Authentic Indians may seek to educate strangers online, but actually adopting an outsider as part of their culture is only done face-to-face and after knowing the person for some time.
    3. Claiming to be American Indian shamans , talking about tarot cards and Wiccan/pagan things, or talking about crystals and New Age things. I’ve got nothing against shamanism, paganism, or the New Age, but a cow is not a horse: none of these things are traditionally Native American. Shamanism is a Russian mystic tradition, Wicca is a religion based in pre-Christian European traditions, Tarot readings are an Indo-European divination method, and the New Age is a syncretic belief system invented, as its name suggests, in the modern era. None of them have anything to do with authentic Indian traditions, and anyone who thinks they do is likely to be wrong about anything else he claims about Native American religions as well. Wiccans and New Agers don’t have any more knowledge about actual American Indian beliefs than you do.
    4. Identifying only as ‘Native American’ or ‘American Indian’ (an authentic person would list their actual tribal affiliation). Be a little wary, too, of people trying to speak with authority who identify as “mixed-blood” or “of Indian descent” or having a “Cherokee ancestor.” There are certainly some mixed-blood people who were raised in their tribe’s culture, but many more were not. A person who has rediscovered his Indian heritage as an adult is a seeker, not a teacher. He is not qualified to speak authoritatively about Native American religion or culture, for he wasn’t raised that way and doesn’t have any more knowledge about it than anyone else learning about it second-hand–including you.
    If you’re trying to learn about American Indian religion because you want to become a part of it, though, you not only face that problem, but another, much deeper one as well: American Indian spirituality is not evangelistic. It is private and entirely cultural. You cannot convert to ‘Native American’ any more than you can convert to being black. (In fact, many Indians–myself included–are Christians in addition to our traditional tribal beliefs, just like many black people are Christian in addition to being black.) The only way to ‘join’ a Native American spiritual tradition is to become a member of the cultural group, and it’s impossible to do that over the Internet. No one who truly believed in American Indian spirituality would ever offer to tutor total strangers in religious matters online, much less charge anyone money for such a thing. So, by definition, the people who make these offers are those who either don’t really believe in Native American spirituality, or don’t know very much about it. Is that really who you want to be listening to?
    On our site, we have generally given people the benefit of the doubt with our links, including websites unless we are sure there is a reason not to. Regarding Native American religion and spirituality, however, we have decided to err on the side of caution instead. Anyone who is looking for a new religion or seeking spiritual truth is a needy individual and I will not contribute to their being used by irresponsible people. If you are reading this page because you are a person in need of religious and spiritual guidance, I urge you strongly to seek out some religions that are evangelistic rather than cultural (one of the many Christian churches, Buddhism, Baha’i; there are many choices) and talk to spiritual leaders there until you find one that can help you. Falling under the influence of a false ‘shaman’ will only hurt you spiritually.
    Since I have put this page up, I have received many anguished emails saying “But my grandmother was part Cherokee… are you telling me to just forget that part of myself? How can I honor my Native ancestors if you won’t share your religion with me?” The answer is simple: honor them the way they would want to be honored. Don’t pay some new-age guru $250 to perform fake “Native American” rituals that would have offended your ancestors, go physically to their tribe and re-connect with their other descendants. It will be hard work convincing the people there that you are genuine but if you go with humility and patience you will eventually be accepted, and that is the ONLY way you will ever become part of the spiritual tradition you desire. There is no shortcut to that. Native spirituality belongs only to the cultural group, and anyone who tells you otherwise is trying to make some money off of you and/or to take a power trip at your expense.
    You’ve been warned. Good luck, with whatever it is you’re looking for. You’re probably going to need it.
    In short you’re probably NOT going to find a sweatlodge run by the Native community that you can go to. It just isn’t done, a sweatlodge after all is a sacred place, and outsiders don’t get invited..period!!
    And to the other poster, women ARE allowed in sweatlodges, just not during their moon cycle…..

    • Thank you for being so honest and truthful about this topic. So many people are searching and fall into traps where the so called teachers are ripping them off all in the name of spirituality. Your kindness and wisdom are truly like a breath of fresh air.

    • Coolrouge, I would like to learn and embrace the Cherokee culture. I would like to internship if you will, this summer with a tribe. How do I go about doing this appropriatly? Do you know of any tribes in Texas or Oklahoma that would be open to doing this?

    • Could use your help with trying to balance all you explained and stilll hoping to find a “something” with some benefit of help as traditional (meaning after the white men took over this land) help isn’t and hasn’t worked. I’m lost in my journey without guidance I understand and can feel good about following. 10 year old post…hope is obviously the only thing left.

  4. all i can say is “give coolrogue ten!
    thats as clearly as you and anyone else looking for proposed sweats.
    all and anyone CLAIMING to be a shaman voted by their tribe is fulloshyttte..no real native will come looking for you just becos you say you are.real indians WHEN they go looking for: find who they are related to…even if the reletive is in scotland… thats real native americans ALL not just select groups/we aint chimpenzes. real natives KNOW who theyre ancestors were as in GRANDMAS,n granpas,aunties,uncles,cousins..i know folks who looked for me on the piney and found out they were told my family name is on another reservation up north on the rock…things like that is what you search for.. its a real long hard road to find reletives… but its worth it..nothing like tiospaye”family/reletives” p.s. I found my long lost sister whom i always thot was a figment of my imagination. just met her like six yrs. ago. she been living in pa. and i lived like fifty miles FOR YEARS..thats family!

  5. I’ve been searching searching for a Native American sweat lodge in Oklahoma.
    My purpose is not out of novelty, curiosity, or some tourism thing– I am too old for that and it sounds silly for people to do such. That’s like going to church for all the wrong reasons, when actually I am a Christian who likes to attend regularly for personal reasons and not just social.
    The same reason is why I am looking for a sweat lodge: personal healing and spiritual reasons. I have spent more time this past year doing genealogical research on my great grandmother born on an Indian reservation in Colorado during the 1800’s and in the hardship she underwent as she gave birth to my grandmother and her 5 siblings. All my life I have been aware of the difference in native american spirituality/culture and it has provided me with necessary comfort and healing during my life. I have yet to locate the roll number for my grandmother and great aunt but am still hoping to. I was told that a fire in Atoka, Ok courthouse destroyed these documents many years ago. In the meantime, why can’t someone help direct me to a sweat lodge for my OWN needed healing and cleansing? Please? It is for personal reasons. I belong to a local YMCA which has a lovely sauna, hot tub, etc. that I’ve been going to for at least 10 years. Yes, sweating is good for me, but I need the spiritual cleansing/healing that ONLY the Indian sweat lodge can offer. PLEASE someone- help guide/direct me?
    Thank you for your time in reading this.
    By the way- I attended a Sun Dance ritual on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in South Dakota when I was 15 or 16. I am no stranger to the culture/customs and I do keep it very personal/private.

  6. I recently moved to Oklahoma and I am seeking to continue the ways of my ancestors. I am not an registered native and am mixedblood but I was brought up loving and respecting where I came from. My grandmother was born and raised on White Earth rez in Minnesota. Over the past 7 years I had an elder where I was teaching me the ways of my people. I was attending sweat lodges every month as well as ceremonies. I understand outsiders are not overly welcome especially those from other tribes but if there is anybody that can point me where I would be welcome to come and learn i would like to here from you. I am Anishinaabe(ojibwe). My people are from White Earth. Only seeking guidence so I can continue to follow this red road. Aho to all my relations.

  7. I too am a half breed. But the truth is when you are called by Great Spirit to serve, doors will open. Although I am of mixed native american tribes n European blood I was called through dream-time n was led to walk among the Lakota people. That was 20 Years ago. I still practice all that I learned. It is a way of life not a religion. Just know that if you are called, Great Spirit will lead you where you are suppose to go. Ah-ho!

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