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I need some advise on this matter from a nonbiased perspective?

the last couple of days for me has been that I discussed some pantheistic ideas about God, making ignorance an 8th deadly sin, there should be crosses for ‘onanism’ alongside of memorials for the unborn, and having said satan and jesus may be the same person to a Catholic Priest who I had counted as my “spiritual advisor”. He felt that I had to be chemically unbalanced in order to say these things, and said that he saw some disconnects and in that case, I had decided it was best not to talk about g-d anymore (may talk about past talks)–directly or equate g-d with the attainment of nothing in particular.
This troubled me greatly as I thought that he would understand my approach/thought experiments, and my heart is to have a Catholic practice and also sit in zazen.
I told him that I would like to continue to count him as a counselor but that I am no longer Catholic [in a conventional way of discussion] in order to prevent confusion.
CT has also said some ordinary things. L8ly, I have found it constructive “to just breathe” and wanted to thnk the good bodhisattvas, butsos, tagathas, and ordinary men on this site/Pure Land. I think it was kelvintan who said: “you are creating your own problem with something that does not exist” when I talked about Christian Redemption v Karma. I’m kind of starting to see that now.
I should be meeting a Kyoto Zen monk next week, but intend on only having tea; everything is taken care of, ultimately. The universe is my support.
Also CT: “see with your eyes and not your thinking mind” there is a lot of reflection to be done on this and “[attain] to himself. too much was said”. In my own self-reflection, I have came to the same conclusion in the past-that a better sense of self needs to be developed and also that quite of often I talk–
May your practice liberate.
(posted at zenguide.com first, thats where the references come from)
One Winged Angel: Thank you very much. I may just visit a baptist church (we have a nondenom that teaches Baptist doctrine in the area), I have gone there before and like it very much and should visit again. [I cannot talk about G-D tho] Thx also for your prayers! Have a good day!
Taylor’s Mom: Thk you!
muqweez: I believe it was one of the medieval sufis who looked everywhere, pointing to things, and as an infant calling out, “-LLAH! -LLAH!”
And when he was stoned to death his blood spelt out “-LLAHU AKBAR”
However, this is the main reason that I do not talk about G-D anymore, to avoid this confusion and so that I do not offend anyone. I have nothing to say about -ll-h; his Prophet (peace upon him) has said enough.
Eartha: I will give up G-D, but tea, IDK 😉 Definitely would like to get sloshed. 🙂


  1. I was never a catholic, but really we do have to think here, is this really the best step for you? Why not try the Baptist church? perhaps once you finish having tea (good stuff by the way) you can visit one service just to see if it’s for you. I’ll pray for you, have a nice day jazballz.
    the best advice is to follow a reality that is true, not just about emotions, live by prinsiples, that perhaps is the true essence of Christanity. hope this helps.
    Edit: JazBallz, two days ago I prayed to God to help me invite a person to church, Because of you, I had my prayer answered once again. Thank God I had the chance to meet you. God Bless……

  2. What was your question? You sound very complicated and trust me life is simple – only as complicated as YOU make it!

  3. The Oneness of God
    The foundation of the Islamic faith is belief in the Oneness of Almighty God – the God of Abraham, Noah, Moses and Jesus. Islam teaches that a pure belief in One God is intuitive in human beings and thus fulfils the natural inclination of the soul. As such, Islam’s concept of God is straightforward, unambiguous and easy to understand. Islam teaches that the hearts, minds and souls of human beings are fitting receptacles for clear divine revelation, and that God’s revelations to man are not clouded by self-contradictory mysteries or irrational ideas. As such, Islam teaches that even though God cannot be fully comprehended and grasped by our finite human minds, He also does not expect us to accept absurd or demonstrably false beliefs about Him.
    Continuity of the Message
    Islam is not a new religion because “submission to the will of God”, i.e. Islam, has always been the only acceptable religion in the sight of God. For this reason, Islam is the true “natural religion”, and it is the same eternal message revealed through the ages to all of God’s prophets and messengers. Muslims believe that all of God’s prophets, which include Abraham, Noah, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad, brought the same message of Pure Monotheism. For this reason, the Prophet Muhammad was not the founder of a new religion, as many people mistakenly think, but he was the final Prophet of Islam. By revealing His final message to Muhammad, which is an eternal and universal message for all of mankind, God finally fulfilled the covenant that He made with Abraham, who was one of the earliest and greatest prophets.

  4. I find that too much talking about God leads one to a state of hopeless confusion, anger and disillusion.
    Give up the tea, go to the pub and talk about anything other than God and you’ll be amazed at how much better you start to feel by the end of th evening!

  5. I think you are suffering from the dichotomy many of us share with you – the conflict between being genetically disposed to worship and also being a person who prefers to act on a rational basis. I was a Catholic for a while and loved the Mass. But what you are wanting is a religion that allows you to believe what you think is rational and to make your own rules. So I don’t think any Christian, Jewish, or Muslim religion will ever work for you.
    The closest thing to rational religion in my mind is Buddhism. You can also be a pantheist in that you believe if there is a God it is not a personified God and has no desires to affect our behavior or need worship.
    Otherwise, you just have to pick the one that gives you the most emotional satisfaction, accepting from the beginning that you are not going to leave your mind at the door so you will often refuse certain aspects of it.
    Best of luck in your search~!


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