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How would you re-word this quote by Confucius?

“Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall.” -Confucius

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  1. Its fine the way it is.
    But for fun I will fool around with it a bit.
    “The greatest crowning glory is not in never being inflicted with sorrow but ascending from the root of our previous inflictions.” -Confucius (translated by Juefawn)

  2. To even find our “greatest glory” would
    be difficult-in the extreme;for even if we could pinpoint it;we would likely if we lived long enough,to change it.
    This,then,”goes along” with his next few words;and i guess jesus christ “rose”the
    last time he “failed”-note the exclamation marks,for he HAD TO FAIL-it was part of
    the(cosmic)plan.
    Anyway,Socrates(the so-called greatest philosopher)didnt rise again.
    Not that ive or we should be against “martyredom” per se;why should we
    (a recent case in mind are the “japs” of
    world war 2; the kamikaze were known not
    only to be foolish in giving their lives so
    cheaply,but were also known to be barbaric
    to those others who were different(and so
    they “meted-out barbaric treatment”).
    For anyone of us i think would readily give our lives if it would change a lot and achieve
    peace,large-scale.
    Those who know of me might expect what im about to say;that Confucius was trying to put-into-words the equally “great saying”
    of quote,Learning from our mistakes unquote.
    But he might have known that this method takes time;from days to even centuries-
    for its likely that he and they knew that others hadnt learned-from-their-mistakes,
    centuries earlier!
    But he probably and also knew that sometimes mistakes need to be “impressed” upon people;that a Majority
    -of-the-people have to want and require their leaders to change things;i would give examples but im pushed-for-time!
    Anyway,just also like to say that even one person’s “greatest glory”is another’s opposite,something we should never forget
    also.
    im bck;so reading thro the latest,i would say that ibrahim’s”rise up and claim victory” is a slogan withvery little worth;its a remainder of ancient so-called “glories” and,
    as a rebuff i’d say that that type of thing did not help the south in their fight with the northern states,one bit.
    Electro8 correctly states that we all can and do fail- but apparently doesnt elaborate
    possibly because of embarrassment,the last time it happened(i would say that all us darwinists have been taught to recognise
    failure;but not tolerance of it).
    JohnR reports that its probabe meaning is that while we are still alive,”(we)..are stronger for it”. I think this is an obvious mistake,based on the myth that as long as
    we can think,therefore we might rise(forgetting that we may decide that the fight wasnt worthwhile originally).
    aidan402 reminds us that “great men”….
    usually remain so in our minds and history
    (that they”fall and rise again”indicates that
    they dont usually or hardly ever,change in our minds as so-called Great People).
    Absent Glare reminds us that the conclusion of history(which is now,the “winning” or leading history writer
    of our time-Not of all time, though)is that the “real” failure is in “giving-up”.
    Juexue gives an interesting “twist” on
    Confucius, by asking us or giving us the
    (special?) choice of 2 meanings;the first
    meaning being stronger than he 2nd(so beware any of the 2nd-one choosers!;and note,BOTH have the “authority” in juexue’s
    eyes,of being inspired-by both himself two
    other eastern idols(and one,apparently,as
    the equal of Confucius).
    The Sniper is in agreement that the “failing”
    is a personal matter and as such doesnt matter if one doesnt rise-again;if one doesnt want to-doesnt choose to-then one doesnt need “to act”accordingly.Its all an
    individual thing,never mind a national slogan
    (or dream).
    Makiko H correctly states that its impossible to “never fall from the highesr peak…or..
    climb up from the lowest depth..”Someone who does is “rare…but…inexperienced..”
    Also,in learning from our fall-in-pride,it is a
    “great strength”to realise the mistake made,
    and to get over the sadness that that entails.
    i dont happen to agree with her assessment;for its too-focussed on (so called) rare Miracles; i think she shows this when she talks of the”priding moment”.
    And in doing so,she,for me at least shows that whilst a lot of emotion is contained in what i call her “fall”,very little if any learning
    takes place at that time-if at all!
    And even though i think she (mis)under stands that those usually who we put on a high”pedestal” are correctly rare;it is incorrect to state that they have”lived a life with no hardship”.
    But i do take the point that a highly-thought-of and-rare person is one who is more highly thought of if they have experienced a hard life.Its a better and more convincing story or true tale,i guess,
    Anyway,i would say that this quote of confucius that you have chozen has not only “touched-a-nerve”in some here,but
    has enabled some true thoughts on past quoted mistakes to be Aired again;with,
    i may say,with genuine enthusiasm to
    interpret the saying of a famous writer from
    the past.

  3. “A great man is like the strong and flexible bamboo – it yields to the wind, but it doesn’t break, and always rises again” (juexue, inspired by Kongzi and Laozi)
    or maybe
    “Greatness doesn’t lie in making no mistakes, but in learning from your mistakes without being discouraged by them” (juexue, inspired by Kongzi and Buddha)
    (Kongzi = Confucius)

  4. It takes a miracle to never fall from the highest peak, and strength to always climb up from our deepest depth.
    One who never falls from their highest pedestal is rare, and even though they live a life with no hardships, they also live it inexperienced. When we fall from our priding moment, it takes great strength to realize the mistake we made, accept that we made it, learn from it, and find a way to rise above the sadness that it brought.

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