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How is magick in Wicca/Paganism/etc. different from Chi or Prana?

What exactly are you guys doing when you do rituals? Are you altering your chi flow? Wouldn’t there be some physiological basis for any magick that you do?
Since nobody can ever see anything happen when people do magick, it seems like they are just feeling and projecting their own chi/ki/prana/etc. Is this true?

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  1. Wicca and eclectic neopagans just “borrow” concepts from other religions when it suits them, and have a “make it up as you go along” mentality. Not all pagans are eclectic neopagans, it’s an umbrella term. And I’m under the impression that most non-eclectics know how to spell “magic” without looking pretentious.

  2. Not all Wiccans or pagans practice magick and not all witches or magicians are Wicca or pagan.
    Now, what exactly are we doing during rituals? It all depends on who you ask. While there is energy flow, I don’t think I would put the Asian spin on it.
    Read the book below. It might help you out.

  3. Well, I can not speak for Wiccans but within the Tradition of the Golden Dawn and also the Magick as practiced by other groups including Thelemites, you will find a lot of eastern practices too. A huge portion of the daily work is supposed to be meditation, prana, asana, yoga, mudras, etc. This is for general work but also for preparation when aiming to perform specific rituals. So if you want, all this is kind of a basis for ritual, yes. But it is not the sole basis. Another important aspect would be visualization. The continuous and daily practicing of all these things is supposed to increase your abilities in concentration, visualization, focussing, and balancing yourself (amongst other things). Within a ritual you would use these practices when invoking divine powers, energies, elements etc. Western and eastern traditions are going hand in hand there. – This is of course a very simplified answer…

  4. Magick is not a part of Wicca. Wiccans can also be Witches, but the two are not mutually inclusive.
    Anyways, to answer your question: chi and prana are life force energies. They exist without conscious thought. Magick is an act that utilizes these inherent energies. This is also kind of the thought behind feng shui and yoga, the idea that a conscious action will direct these energies a certain way. In fact, many mundane tasks can be considered magickal acts, as magick has been defined before as “the conscious act of creating change at will”.
    As for what people do in ritual, it would depend on who the people are and what the ritual is.
    And chi, ki, and qi are all the same thing, just different pronunciations and different languages….

  5. “What exactly are you guys doing when you do rituals?”
    Impressing a Willed desire onto a medium which has at various points in history been called the “Spiritus Mundi” / “Astral Light” / “Collective Unconscious” / the “Zero-Point Field” / the Information matrix of the Great Cosmic Hologram / etc, but is basically all the same thing.
    “Are you altering your chi flow?”
    Not necessarily – unless the magick specifically concerned chi flow.
    “Wouldn’t there be some physiological basis for any magick that you do?”
    Yes. You have to be alive whilst doing it.
    “Since nobody can ever see anything happen when people do magick,”
    Not true – they could well be clairvoyant. In fact, many forms of ceremonial magick such as evocation do indeed rely on at least one of the ritual participants to be clairvoyant or be skilled in skrying in order to discern that the operation is working. Rituals could also be used to induce visions, either in-ritual or after the working has taken place.
    “it seems like they are just feeling and projecting their own chi/ki/prana/etc. Is this true?”
    No. At the very least you should remove the word “just” from this statement.

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