i can sort of see how you can argue some aspects of it, but how would you explain children having memories of their past lives and past life regression? because they’re right a lot of the time too. how would you refute that?
guys, give me arguments with substance
they are right about what they are recalling because when they were looked into, people found that a lot of the children’s memories actually happened to people now dead
cirbryn: look into it yourself. honestly if you google “children reincarnation memories” you’ll find ENOUGH stories. go to youtube, they have at least 5 documentaries showing these stories on camera. I read a 10 page article discussing instances of children remembering past lives.
the point isn’t WHO these people are and WHAT the memories were, you can find many online, the question is: is there any way to prove ANY OF THEM aren’t actual evidence?
and I’m not saying these instances ARE necessarily absolute proof. I’m saying, “are they?”
I’m sayin some of the FACTS they give about the people they claim to have been ARE verifiable and they have been
cirbryn:
i said “documentaries on youtube” i’m giving you the online location of these documentaries because it’d be hard to get a hold of them for free elsewhere. ordinary youtubers did not produce them. so you’re questioning the credibility? i’m getting these examples from cases looked at by professional and renowned doctors. look up dr. ian stevenson? I could list more?

also the studies that I read are found in a book by somebody who’d been studying reincarnation for about 40 years? I forget..
and the researcher’s bias or influence does not work in a case like this. they can’t subconsciously transmit facts about dead people even they didn’t know about at the time (since they went and looked up these facts afterwards)
but I’ll take a guess and say you’re gonna doubt they DIDN’T know this stuff.. in the same article I read, the people that support it were outward skeptics at first
it’s a bit ridiculous to say that every recorded instant of PL regression has been conspired?

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  • Our memories, personality, habits, opinions, beliefs, emotions (everything that defines who we are) are stored in and a function of the physical brain.

    So, when our brain dies, everything that defines who we are dies too.

    There is no reincarnation (or any other afterlife).

  • We can argue about it, because man still doesn’t understand the whole or complete function, of the human mind. Children’s minds develope fast and they have more dreams than adults. Imaginations run rampant as children. Reincarnation, is a theory. There is no solid evidence, no physical proof of reincarnation. Just dreams, deja’ vu, or past life regression, or hypnosis, which is not always a given success and not everyone can be hypnotized anyway. Not every one has deja’ vu, or dreams constantly or in a state of mind capable of past life regression. Not everyone has a wild or vivid imagination. The mind can play tricks, but sometimes it just functions on it’s own and not in our favor either.

  • > “they are right about what they are recalling because when they were looked into, people found that a lot of the children’s memories actually happened to people now dead”

    What children are right about what they’re recalling? What were they recalling? What people looked into it? How did they look into it?

    What you’ve got there is a bald, untestable assertion. Come back when you’ve got some actual evidence.

    > “cirbryn: look into it yourself. honestly if you google “children reincarnation memories” you’ll find ENOUGH stories. go to youtube, they have at least 5 documentaries showing these stories on camera. I read a 10 page article discussing instances of children remembering past lives.

    Response: So you really think stories you find on Youtube are evidence? I’m going to go post one right now that says you owe me ten thousand dollars and an apple pie. http://tinyurl.com/32bq4dq

    > “the point isn’t WHO these people are and WHAT the memories were, you can find many online, the question is: is there any way to prove ANY OF THEM aren’t actual evidence?
    and I’m not saying these instances ARE necessarily absolute proof. I’m saying, “are they?””

    Response: Not only are they not “absolute proof”, they’re not evidence. To be evidence they need to rule out simple alternative explanations such as the idea that someone made up a bunch of stories and posted them on Youtube. If you do manage to get past that very basic consideration, there are also things to worry about like the observer-expectancy effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer-expectancy_effect and sampling bias (noting “remembered facts” that could be historically accurate while ignoring “remembered facts” that are not historically accurate).

    Youtube stories are good for entertainment value and that’s about it. If you want actual evidence, find something in a peer-reviewed journal. That’s where these people would go if they actually had anything worth reporting.

  • I wouldn’t try to refute this.
    It may be that these memories are imprinted upon the genetic code and they are able to access them without being aware that this is what they are doing.
    I am guessing here.
    When I gave music lessons , many of my students would say they just discovered their grandfather or great grandfather had learned to play the instrument they were playing and their grandmother had just mentioned this to them. How is it that the grandchildren just chose the same instruments over and over?

  • evil spirits give them the memory’s

    KJV: Acts Chapter 16

    [16]
    And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying:

    [17] The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation.

    [18] And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour.

  • What do you mean they are right a lot of the time? How could any such mental notion be verified?? They are probably remembering dreams they had, mixed with a healthy portion of childhood imagination. (Some of them have seen dragons too, you know, and monsters walking around their room at night).

  • Children have minds that are easily malleable. This is exploited regularly by religious leaders and regression hypnotists.

    Edit: Why don’t YOU give US an argument with substance? You can’t hold everyone else to higher standards than you hold yourself.

  • they’ve been coached. not all parents have scruples. some will do anything for attention. even planting memories into their kid’s head to try and make a buck or two.

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