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hey wiccans and magic practicioners i have some questions about high magick?

Ok, so i have been reading ceremonial magick summonings and invockations , and the one that most resonates to me it is the one of calling the elements and his king . For example the earth elements , which are the firsts one i think of invocking since my astrological sign is from earth too. My questions are : how dangerous could this invockations/summonings be? my intentions are the ones of learning knowledge not of an egoistical matter , mind you . Also i read that it is neccesary to have a crystal ball so that you can see these beings trough it, is it neccesary or can it be a mirror? the person i know did it with a crystal ball and he saw “them” through it but im wondering if i have other alternatives . thanks in advance i got to go.
lbrrl girl i said magic practitioners as well in general , and please if you dont know , then dont answer, you are not really helping.


  1. This has nothing to do with Wicca.
    ….Oh, and you’re learning from *dreadful* CM books. Just FYI.
    Dabblers. Sigh.

  2. It can be dangerous if you don’t do the opening and closing properly and completely, which includes the circle. a black mirror is often used for scrying.
    Rev. Neil

  3. It is typical in high magic to work in pairs for the sorts of things you’re doing. You can do it alone, but it’s much more difficult. What you could do is this, if you’re bent on trying it:
    1) Banishing–the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram is often sufficient, but if you want to go all out, the Supreme (or Greater) Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram will be just fine.
    2) The invocation–you as operator and a partner as seer. The operator/seer configuration is normal in CM. Rev is right: a skrying mirror is the most common tool. However, a crystal ball can work too, as can a basin of water. The crystal ball has to be flawless, though.
    3) You as the operator ask the questions. The seer acts as a medium, so you transcribe what your partner sees and hears.
    4) Dismissal and banishing. For the banishing, use the GBRP.
    Make sure you know your banishings and invocations inside out, fowards, backwards, and upside down, first. You have to be able to concentrate. That’s why CM takes so much preparation.

  4. I think it depends on what spirit you summon, some spirits are pretty evil and pretty dangerous(some times you end up fighting other sorcerers rather than meet spirits, be aware of that). A black mirror works just as well as a crystal ball.

  5. I think you need to get some proper guidance before you start dabbling in this kind of stuff. It is HIGHLY dangerous to open these doors unless you have been properly trained and it does not appear that you know what you are doing. Find someone reputable who is prepared to teach you what you need to know. Good luck.

  6. I’m glad you felt a resonance. That’s a start.
    Now, as to High Magic(k), yes, you need the tools as described if you are going to do it ‘right’. You also need to start with the basic exercises you probably have in the book as well — prana or other yoga techniques, meditation, etc. — and get used to doing them. They train the focus needed to do the invocations, do them in proper order and to get a response without summoning something bigger than you can handle. Short cuts in the process result in variable results ranging from a waste of your time and money (most likely) to blowing your own mind at least temporarily, to (rarely) calling a large and obnoxious elemental in an unwise location, such as a Fire elemental in a summer-dry national forest or a stormy Air elemental during tornado season.
    High Magic(k) is demanding, and it’s not cheap. Some people are drawn to it who are willing (and able) to make the necessary sacrifices. Others can’t afford the time and/or effort it requires, and some find it’s just not for them. Consider how much work you want to put into your magic(k)s before you invest in a lot of tools and concoctions, then do as you will.


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