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Has individual consciousness become a Romantic concept?

to JG: thank you for posting the article; you not only recognized what I was trying to ask (capital R), but provided reading that validated and enriched my thoughts on the subject greatly! pleasure to read it.


  1. O_o??
    I would think Romantic would be more like individual semi-consciousness. Then again, what do I know?
    OIC, the Roman — those who promoted the Gladiators as entertainment for drunken, roaring, screaming, blood lusted and otherwise corrupted audiences while the government taxed the citizens to the bones for war and conquests… How conscious were they again?

  2. Not sure what you mean by a romantic concept.
    However, “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness..”
    Then there is the concept of Free Will. I take individual consciousness and free will to be the same. So if you believe that people have free will, as a philsophical given. Then, there is individual conscionsiousness.
    OTOH, you can believe what ever you want.

  3. I don’t think individual consciousness is Romantic at all, but I assure you after 11 pm on Saturday night for one-third of the populace, it becomes non-existent.
    Now, excuse me while I grab another beer from the fridge…

  4. Possibly if you are using the word “Romantic” in the sense of the Romantic Era, Not boy girl romance, and therefore Romanticism as defined below from Wikipedia:
    “Romanticism is a complex artistic, literary, and intellectual movement that originated in the second half of the 18th century in Western Europe, and gained strength during the Industrial Revolution. It was partly a revolt against aristocratic social and political norms of the Age of Enlightenment and a reaction against the scientific rationalization of nature, and was embodied most strongly in the visual arts, music, and literature
    The movement stressed strong emotion as a source of aesthetic experience, placing new emphasis on such emotions as trepidation, horror, and the awe experienced in confronting the sublimity in untamed nature and its qualities that are “picturesque”, both new aesthetic categories. It elevated folk art and custom, as well as arguing for a “natural” epistemology of human activities as conditioned by nature in the form of language, custom and usage.
    Our modern sense of a romantic character is sometimes based on Byronic or Romantic ideals. Romanticism reached beyond the rational and Classicist ideal models to elevate medievalism and elements of art and narrative perceived to be authentically medieval, in an attempt to escape the confines of population growth, urban sprawl and industrialism, and it also attempted to embrace the exotic, unfamiliar and distant in modes more authentic than chinoiserie, harnessing the power of the imagination to envision and to escape.
    The ideologies and events of the French Revolution, rooted in Romanticism affected the direction it was to take, and the confines of the Industrial Revolution also had their influence on Romanticism, which was in part an escape from modern realities; indeed, in the second half of the nineteenth century, “Realism” was offered as a polarized opposite to Romanticism. Romanticism elevated the achievements of what it perceived as misunderstood heroic individuals and artists that altered society. It also legitimized the individual imagination as a critical authority which permitted freedom from classical notions of form in art. There was a strong recourse to historical and natural inevitability, a Zeitgeist, in the representation of its ideas.”
    Aural you come up with some really deep thinking. Thank you.
    Yes there are those that try to make it that way even if they do not use the particular words to describe the movement of sorts.
    J G

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