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    is astral projection a hallucination or is it reality?

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        Just curious, i belive it’s possible no doubt about it. But can you do things like, meet up with other people and tak about it the next day? ask a friend to write a piece of paper at random, leave it in their room and tell it them the next day etc?

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        it is both, and neither

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        Its called lucid dreaming, you can’t separate your soul from your body as you don’t have a soul. If astral projection was “real” then the government would be spending millions of $$ to secure the services of a bunch of stoners.
        If you honestly believe that you have a soul can i have your brains?

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        It is pretend.

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        As far as I can tell it would be very simple to test under scientific conditions. In my opinion there would be a lot of scientists who would love to be the ones at the helm of this revolutionary discovery, as long as the results were conclusive. If it worked, I think we would know about it. If it can’t be proven we should really not worry about it, it’s just an halucination.

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        Charles Tart’s experimentation with “Miss Z” is an example of this:
        http://www.psychwww.com/asc/obe/missz.html
        A big logistical problem with meeting up with others is finding sufficiently talented partners to ensure both are ‘out’ simultaneously. At the Monroe Institute (where they train a dozen people simultaneously) such verification is apparently commonplace – lots of personal accounts are out there if you look. Googling “partnered exploration” will also give you a few Bruce Moen hits of possible interest.
        It personally took me about 22 years to achieve this sort of validation. Though it sounds like a piece of cake, in practice it’s a bit like solving equations while you’re drowning, there’s an awful lot going on to distract you…

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        It is actually more real than the physical reality.
        Yes you can meet up people and talk about it the next day. It is hard to read something written on a piece of paper.

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        It’s more that real people can see things behind walls or talk to other people.it’s like leaving your physical body and flying.
        I don’t think it’s a hallucination.
        A hallucination is if you see a lepracon in stead of a tree but if you see places that exist or see things in a different way without changing them it’s not a hallucination.

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