- June 3, 2010 at 11:02 am#6259
- June 3, 2010 at 11:50 am #406563
- June 3, 2010 at 11:51 am #406562
If you achieve Enlightenment, your body does not enter a different parallel and disappear.
The body will decay as all material things do. ThereÂ´s no stopping that. Buddha achieved a level of consciousness never before reached, by contemplating, among other things, this very fact, that all is temporary, all living beings suffer, all suffering comes from desire and fear. He overcame desire and fear and in so doing achieved Enlightenment. Easier said than done of course.
Read “Autobiography Of A Yogi” by Paramhansa Yogananda. And listen to Leonard Cohen too, who got me interested in buddhism fifteen years ago.
- June 3, 2010 at 12:43 pm #406515
- June 3, 2010 at 1:38 pm #406464
Enlightenment has nothing to do with remains. It is a completely perfected state of mind, known as enlightenment. It is the highest nirvana which can be achieved by anyone who removes the gross and subtle obstructions clouding his or her mind and develops positive mental qualities to their fullest potential.
The traditional definition of enlightenment refers to coming to the end of the developmental process, to having “arrived.” In an evolutionary context, enlightenment is not about coming to the end of anything, but rather, to the beginning of something else. It means that the mysterious compulsion to evolve, or the spiritual impulse, has become the stronger part of who we are.
- June 3, 2010 at 2:17 pm #406423
One becomes enlightened in form(body)..once enlightened the form continues to live and dies as it naturally would have but it is not re-born.
When Buddha reached enlightenment he continued to live his final life within the body,,hence the bones and burial.
We must become enlightened in life form in order to cease returning as a body ..what is born must die..what is real never dies because it was never born….Becoming enlightened is becoming the reality that we truly are..the unborn.,the undead…it does not mean our bodies transcend to another dimension.
- June 3, 2010 at 2:51 pm #406387
- June 3, 2010 at 3:44 pm #406340
When one achieves enlightenment they no longer need a physical shell, so the body becomes superfluous and gets left behind. Letting go of our attachments to the material world is part of the process, so why would you want to take your single greatest attachment, your body, with you?
- June 3, 2010 at 3:50 pm #406331
Enlightenment does not mean physically disappearing into some other realm. Enlightenment means being fully awake, in other words, being wise. An enlightened person will not reborn again once dead. According to Buddhism, we are reborn because we are not fully awake and we still cling on to lot of things, we have desires that prompt us to reborn.
- June 3, 2010 at 4:10 pm #406311
You are mistaken slightly about enlightenment. We are all enlightened beings, we just have our vision of this enlightenment clouded by maya, which is the illusion of this world created by our senses and our minds. Once we can set aside what our eyes tell us, our ears tell us, and our mind’s preconceptions tell us, we can lift the veil of maya and see our true nature (our being all of us). Enlightenment isn’t a rapture type thing; many people have achieved this state, seeing past the veil of maya. The thing is, when this is done, the cycle of rebirth is broken. When you die, you are no longer attached to this life, this world, so you remain in that natural state of being, which is Nirvana. Our bodies have nothing to do with our essential Self, which is One, which is Nirvana.
- June 3, 2010 at 4:11 pm #406306
Our human body is a result of previous karma. In Buddhism you have two different kinds (levels) of Nirvana:
1. Nirvana with remainder, which is when you are enlightened and totally stop producing the karma that causes the suffering and the cycle of death and rebirth in Samsara (the opposite of Nirvana), but still have the human body that is a result of previously produced karma. This was the Nirvana that the Buddha manifested under the Bodhi tree at the age of 35, before he started to teach his insights and organize the Buddhist community of monks and nuns.
2. Nirvana without remainder, which is when you die (if you’re already enlightened) and leave the human body behind, thus getting rid also of the results of previously produced karma (i e the body and your human mind functions specifically connected to that bodily existence). This is what the Buddha manifested at the so called Parinirvana (= supreme or total Nirvana), which was his moment of bodily death at the age of 80.
The moment when the mind leaves the body behind at death is (also for unenlightened beings) described in the Buddhist scriptures as when a guest checks out from a hotel room after a short stay to continue the travel to the next hotel (the next body). Or as when you change clothes.
After the death of the Buddha, small portions of his cremated body were spread out all over the then Buddhist world, and for every place where they were kept, a so called stupa was built – that is a monument symbolizing the corporeal presence of the Buddha. Later, stupas continued to be built even if they didn’t contain actual remainders of the Buddha, still, though, symbolizing the bodily presence of the Buddha.
- June 3, 2010 at 4:44 pm #406270
Your description of enlightenment is found in (some) Tibetan teachings — enlightened beings are believed to vanish (into light rays) and leaving nothing behind.
This definition is not found in Theravada or Mahayana teachings. Arahants & Buddha entered nirvana yet their physical bodies were no different from non-enlightened beings (except relics to be found upon cremation).
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