Have Jehovah's Witnesses rejected all the pagan ways, that modern Christians follow?
Are Jehovah's Witnesses the only Christians that have rejected the Pagan traditions ,that have been introduced into main stream Christianity?
Jehovah's Witnesses are far from eradicating pagan rituals from their lives.
Consider their marriage/wedding procedures, almost every aspect is of pagan origin
Some religions have tried to root out paganism, but some of their members still participate in some of the holidays or they haven't rooted out ALL paganism from their beliefs.
Jehovah's Witnesses have though.
No, they teach man does not have an immortal soul.
Yes we have. We follow God, and also walk closely in Jesus footsteps. We obey God, not man, or his pagan ideas.
That sums it up nicely, yes.
Yes. As far as others are concerned, I can't think of anyone else who has completely rejected paganism..
I eat food, just like pagans do ... therefore... I must be pagan!
...gimme a break.
THERE IS a dividing line.
Use some reason...,
Absolutely! And good riddance!
No, they still use wedding rings, have cake at their weddings and celebrate wedding anniversaries- all of which have pagan roots. Hmmm.
Yes. When we look back at all the things we have thrown out after learning they had pagan origins, then see other religions claiming to be Christian that hold on a death grip to pagan practices, we have .
If we learn some new insights in the future, we will change then as well in order to meet Jehovah God's requirements to have worship that is pure to him.
Now the question you have to ask is after about 150 years, why are other religions, claiming to be Christian, not made changes as well? This is not rocket science. It is just reading for yourself what the Bible says and not accepting someone's word for what it says.
Basically, I agree that Jehovah’s Witnesses reject all pagan practices and that our worship of Jehovah is totally pure. However, I would have small disagreement about the wording of your question where you say, “Are Jehovah's Witnesses the only Christians…” Why?
Because there is no other Bible-based religion (other than us) that may be correctly defined as Christian. All of the others are members of “fake Christianity,” harlots of Babylon the Great. There will come a time in the future where Jehovah purifies this planet and when he does it, you can be sure that all false religions (such as Buddhists, Presbyterians, Catholics, Baptists, Islam, etc) will be destroyed, & wiped off the face of the earth. Only true worshippers of Jehovah will remain. All the pagan religions will cease to exist.
Nope they have a few favorites they keep around.
The Best is the one where they pass the Communion elements and no one partakes of them ( almost no one anyway) That one is right out of Satanic ritual where they too,pass the Elements and no one partakes.
THE CONSISTENT USE OF PAGAN,
OCCULT SOURCES THROUGHOUT THE
Some Jehovah's Witnesses will try to excuse their founder, Charles Russell, by admitting that he did have some strange doctrines in the beginning, but that the light has grown "brighter and brighter". However, history proves that the Society has consistently used pagan, occult sources to support their doctrines and teachings.
Consider the publication of their "New World Translation of the Scriptures". They consistently dishonestly quoted reputable scholars to try to make it appear that they had their support when they did not. The Watchtower Society has the occult view of Jesus Christ , namely that he is "a god", and they altered their "bible" to try and support this distortion of the Scriptures.
Examples are numerous and lengthy and we have covered many of them in our other teaching tapes and literature, so will consider only one example here. To support their pagan heresy that Jesus is only "a god", they resorted to quoting a spirit medium for support, with the full knowledge that he was one.
Consider first their distortion of John 1:1 found in their "bible",
"In (the) beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god."
For support of this distortion, they turned to the so-called "expertise" of a known spirit-medium. His name was Johannes Greber. He was a defrocked Catholic Priest who received his so-called "translation" of the bible through spiritistic means, usually in trances. The Watchtower Society exposed him in the February 15th, l956 Watchtower, warning that his sources were demonic. We couldn't agree with them more!
However, in 1961, just five years later, they were singing his praises and quoting him as an authority for their New World Translation, since he was a supporter of their doctrine on the person of Jesus Christ, and all three sources, Greber, the demons, and the Watchtower Society all agreed that Jesus was merely "a god".
While knowingly agreeing with and quoting a spirit medium, they nevertheless spoke out against spiritistic practices. An example is in the October 15th, l977 Watchtower, on page 624 where they said,
"Since spiritism is condemned by God, it becomes obvious that a person appealing to spiritism for knowledge or help is not appealing to God. He is looking to a source opposed to God..."
Not a single, reputable Christian or non-Christian scholar would agree with their distortion of John 1:1, in which they called our Savior "a god". The Watchtower has for their support only other Christ-denying cults, the pagans, and the occult for their view of Christ. They do not have the support of the correctly translated Scriptures for their pagan doctrine on Christ. Jehovah's Witnesses need to select a reputable translation of the Bible and read Colossians 2: 8,9
"See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ. For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form".
All is all, and full is full, and all the fullness of Deity (Godhead, Godship) dwells in Jesus Christ, even in the flesh! We recommend you get our tape "Jehovah's Witnesses and the Real Jesus" to set matters straight by the Bible.
If Jehovah's Witnesses will prayerfully consider this Scripture and begin an examination of a valid Bible by valid scholars, they will come to realize that they have indeed fallen into the trap warned about in this Scripture. They have fallen captive to "empty deception" according to a "tradition of men".
Under the heading of "justified lying" we again turn to the topic of Johannes Greber. After warning against him in l956, they quoted and followed his teachings from 1961 onwards.
In 1983. only after being cornered with their deception, on page 31 of the April 1st, l983 Watchtower they denied they knew what they were doing! They promised not to quote him anymore, but they left intact his demonic, pagan doctrines on Christ, not only concerning Christ's person, but also the resurrection of our Lord.
Jehovah's Witnesses, do you know that your false doctrine on Christ's resurrection comes directly from demonic sources? Jesus did not have his body dissolved into gases, and then materialize a fake body complete with fake nail prints to fool His disciples into believing it was really Him risen from the dead!
Let's just take a moment to correct J.W. doctrine from the Scriptures. Luke 24: 36-46 clearly states,
"And while they were telling these things, He Himself stood in their midst. But they were startled and frightened and thought that they were seeing a spirit. And He said to them,
"Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? See My hands and my feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have." (And when He had said this, He showed them His hands and His feet.)
And while they still could not believe it for joy and were marveling, He said to them, "Have you anything here to eat?" And they gave Him a piece of a broiled fish; and He took it and ate it in their sight.
Now He said to them, "These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled". Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, and He said to them, "Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer and rise again from the dead the third day".
Jesus Christ rose bodily, appeared to his followers. It was really Him, and we live because He lives!
FordLTD Built Ford Tough : Your right, there are a lot of groups that claim to be Christian but how can it be said they reject pagan way’s when they still celebrate Christmas, Easter, Halloween and more, all deeply rooted into paganism while not putting emphasis on the one and only celebration the Bible say’s to commemorate, the “Memorial” of Jesus’ death?
MEADOWVALE : Teaching our soul in not immortal is a Bible teaching, it say’s in (Ecclesiastes 9:5) .Â .Â .but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, .Â .Â . Also the Bible say’s in (Romans 6:23) 23Â For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life .Â .Â . So how can we be immortal if our soul is not conscious? Rather it was Satan that said the soul was immortal in order to mislead! (Genesis 3:3-4) .Â .Â .” 4Â At this the serpent said to the woman: “you positively will not die.. . . And false religion is still using that tactic today. Jehovah Witnesses will have no part of it!
Our loving Creator would never think of burning any of His creation for eternity because of a short life of sin, it would not be fair or loving. This is another way Satan malign’s Jehovah’s loving name. Our choice is very simple life or death. that is all.
Sugar: What’s the hummming about? The Bible shows that some of God’s servants in the past wore rings, even ones that had special meaning attached to them. Wearing a signet ring could indicate that one had received authority to act in behalf of the ruler who owned it. (Gen. 41:42; Num. 31:50; Esther 8:2, 8; Job 42:11, 12; Luke 15:22) So, while wedding rings are not mentioned, these true worshipers clearly did not scruple against using rings for more than mere adornment.
No, the way it really is, there has been a thorough house cleaning in Jesus’ congregation! There is no paganism in it at all, there can’t be! It is being directed by Jesus and his Father, Jehovah! WOW!!! Clean clean clean! Excuse me, I’ve got to go polish my shoes. Thank you Kevin!
No, but neither Christians nor Jehovah's Witnesses are defined by how much they don't look like pagans. Christians are not pagans, and neither are Jehovah's Witnesses. My Catholic faith and my worship of Jesus Christ is not limited by anything a pagan does or does not do.
It is false to claim that all things pagans ever have done must be excluded from Christianity. Pagans are not Satan incarnate (At least I don't think they are.), so it is not true that all that pagans do is evil. That pagans use candles, sometimes hold hands during ceremonies, and recognize some days as special does not mean that candles, holding hands, or celebrating the resurrection of Jesus Christ on a particular day of the year are Satanic or evil.
To say that everything a pagan does must not be done by a faithful Christian is absurd.
Consider these examples that show your suggested "rule" is not reasonable:
ABSURD IDEAS FROM THE "RULE" THAT CHRISTIANS CAN NEVER BE LIKE PAGANS AT ALL:
1.) Pagans believe there are beings greater than humans, therefore Christians must deny all supernatural beings.
2.) Pagans sometimes celebrate their religious activities outdoors, therefore Christianity must always be practiced indoors.
3.) Pagans sometimes try to do good things to help people, therefore Christians must never be kind to anyone.
4.) Pagans dispose of the bodies of their dead loved ones in a careful manner, therefore Christians must leave the bodies of the deceased wherever people die.
5.) Pagans have rituals, therefore Christians can't have rituals. Baptisms must be forbidden, because Baptism is a type of ritual, and everyone knows that Pagans have rituals.
6.) Pagans practice their faith with other people, and they talk to each other about paganism, therefor Christians must all be hermits, or at least never talk with other Christians about Jesus, because talking about one's faith is something that pagan's do in groups.
7.) Pagans pray, therefore Christians must never pray.
It is simply absurd to suppose that because pagans used to do something, or may still do something, that Christians must therefore never do that thing - or anything that resembles it. That a pagan celebrates a fertility ritual in the Spring does not mean that Christians can not celebrate Easter in April. That pagans might light candles in honor of trees does not mean that Christians can not light a candle as a reminder of the light of Christian truth.
To insist that Christians must never do anything a pagan might do is to become a type of modern-day Pharisee, an enforcer of hundreds of burdensome and irrelevant rules. Pagans do a lot of things. Honest and faithful Christians don't really care what pagans do - they're pagans!
I have no idea what a wedding ring means to a pagan, nor do I really care. I really don't know why pagans light candles, nor do I really care. I do know that pagans sometimes pray to trees and mountains and oceans, but that does not mean I can not pray to Jesus Christ, just because I'd then be praying, which is something pagans have done.
No pagan activity has any limiting authority over the actions of the followers and worshipers of Jesus Christ, of which I am one. I know what holy water is, and it is not the product of pagans. I also know that when a Catholic priest acts to bring about the changing of mere bread into the body of Jesus Christ, it is not a pagan metamorphosis of the spirit of the wheat goddess, but a dazzling display of the power of the Holy Spirit, who proceeds from the Father and The Son - the one and only true God who ever has existed, or ever will or could exist.
The magisterium of the Catholic Church is not obligated to check with any society of pagans regarding what ritual forms The Church may allow. Pagans pray to fruit trees, but I am not rejecting, nor even slightly disappointing, my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ when I eat peaches and cherries. I don't mimic any pagan communion service when I eat apple pie with my family, because I just don't think apples are the offspring of any pagan deity.
I am Roman Catholic, not pagan.
Pagans are Pagan, not Catholic.
We Catholics and pagans all are human, so we look a lot alike, strikingly similar to Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons, but not as well dressed, and our beliefs are profoundly different.
Peace be with you, and with the pagans and Jehovah's Witnesses, on whom I pray that God is merciful in eternity, as I hope and pray He also is merciful on every mere human who ever has or ever will live.
Certainly not. Jehovah's Witnesses teach that Jesus is St. Michael the Archangel, which is not only a gross heresy, it is blasphemous and means they cannot be classed as Christian.
Pagans reject Jesus as the third person of the One True God and so do JWs. So they have that in common with Paganism.
An interesting point, however...
It seems odd, that if Jehovah's Witnesses are to have absolutely no association with anything of pagan origin, why they would print on the cover of every Watchtower and Awake magazine, the names of the months of the year.
These are Pagan!
According to The New Encyclopedia Britannica, "January... (is) named for Janus, god of doorways and beginnings.
"March... (is) Martius, named for the god Mars.
"April... The Romans considered the month sacred to the goddess Venus, and its name may derive from that of her Greek equivalent, Aphrodite.
"June... (is) probably named for the goddess Juno" (Vol. 8, p. 292, parenthesis added).
Other months derive their names from equally pagan origins.
"February: named from Februalia, a time period when sacrifices were made to atone for sins.
"May: named for Maia, the goddess of growth of plants.
"July: named for Julius Caesar.
"August: named for Augustus, the first Roman emperor" (Academic American Encyclopedia, Vol. 4, p. 28).
Thus, the names for the months of the year, which are used by every Jehovah's Witness, have their origins in pagan festivals, false religions and the exaltation of ancient heathen rulers.
The problem for the Jehovah's Witnesses, however, does not stop with the names for the month. The problem of paganism effects the Witness on a daily basis.
Those Pagan Days
Similar to the problem experienced by the Jehovah's Witnesses with relationship to the months of the year, the days of the week also have acquired their names from pagan origins.
"The days assigned by the Romans to the Sun, Moon and Saturn were retained for the corresponding days of the week in English and several related languages. The other weekdays names in English are derived from Anglo-Saxon words for the Gods of Teutonic mythology" (The New Encyclopedia Britannica, Vol. 12, p. 555).
If the Jehovah's Witnesses reject the idea of birthdays due to their "astrological connection," to be consistent, must they not also reject the names of the week days because of their astrological connection?
Sunday: "To understand the meaning and significance of Sunday as the first day of the week it is necessary to consider the five contributions which have been made to its place in the calendar and to its observance: .PG "1) the worship of the sun among ancient peoples, 2) the popularity of Mithraism among the Romans, 3) the Roman observance of the day of the Sun..." (Collier's Encyclopedia, Vol. 21, p. 632).
Monday: "Derived from Lunae Dies, day of the moon, the name reflects the ancient observance of feast days dedicated to the moon, either as goddess or as planet" (Ibid, Vol. 16, p. 440).
Tuesday: "In the Roman calendar the corresponding day was dies Martis, and the same reference to war is conveyed by the origin of Tuesday. Tiw's day is derived from Tyr or Tir, the wrestler and the sons of Odin, or Woden, the Norse god of war" (Ibid, Vol. 22, p. 506)
Wednesday: "...corresponds to the Roman Dies Marcurii. The name is a derivation of the Scandinavian Woden (Odin), chief deity of Norse mythology" (Ibid, Vol. 23, p. 379).
Thursday: "It derives its name from the Middle English Thoresday, or thursday and it corresponds to the Roman dies Jovis. Thor, the god of strength and thunder, defender and help in war, is the counterpart of Jupiter or Jove" (Ibid, Vol. 22, p. 298).
Friday: "It derives its name from the Germanic name Frigg, given to the wife of the god Odin and meaning `beloved' or `loving'" (Ibid, Vol. 10, p. 416).
Saturday: "...corresponding to the Roman dies Saturni, or `day of Saturn,' the Roman god of agriculture" (Ibid, Vol. 20, p. 449).
If Jehovah's Witnesses are truly concerned about influence from pagan sources, false religions and astrological contamination, they must never again use the names of the months or the days of the week.
I get it, this is one of those questions asked by a follower of the JW's in order to help them look good? I bet I'm right! Not really a question after all then.
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When finally published, apart from discussing many other topics and scriptures related to the Trinity, you will discover that there are some 400+ scholarly reference works (including those by Trinitarians) which have opted to say something other than, "and the Word was God," and that, among these are included over 100 which had chosen to use "a god" (as by a number Trinitarians as well) within the third clause of their renderings.
As you might expect, we are very excited at the opportunity to share our findings with others.