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Albert Einstein said a God who is one with the universe exists what evidence do atheists have to dispute Einst?


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Since (according Einstein) the universe cannot be explained except by some sort of Divine Mind this opens the door for debate of what kind of God did in fact bring all things into existence the God of the Hebrew bible cannot be ruled out a priori.

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the "god" Einstein was referring to was poetic and metaphorical in nature. He didn't believe that anything like the Abrahamic God created the universe. If anything (bending over backwards here...), he was referring to a deistic god, in which case the God of the Hebrew bible CAN be ruled out, because the god of deism does not intervene on the world. Obviously the Hebrew God does.

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Einstein was a genius not only because of his scientific truths, but also because he was able to peer behind the veil of truth to see that the universe was in fact so perfectly designed, that without a designing force, there could be no universe. All of the atheists are of course more brilliant than Einstein I guess. He was careful not to designate which God was behind the whole ball of wax..but he did believe that a force of intelligence lies behind the substance of what we see with out eyes, and knew that what was not visible, was the force behind which all things were designed. He was brilliant. Atheists it appears only wish to see the physical, being blind to what lies just behind the veil of reality. I'll place my money on Einstein any day over the atheists who wish to assume they know more than the greatest genius that ever lived since the dawn of mankind took its first feeble steps upon this wonderous creation!

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Einstein did NOT believe in god. Many physicists use the word "god" for the idea the life is arranges itself. It says that a very fundamentally simple idea creates immense amounts of complexity FROM it.
The argument you are implying is that an infinitely complex universe needs something even more complex to create it. It's actually the opposite. The only thing that is one with the entire universe is the vacuum of space. Every atom is 99.999% vacuum and the universe is 99.999% vacuum. The vacuum of space is the MOST dense anything can get. It is the densest thing in existence.
It's this dense because it is in perfect equilibrium. It's SO well balanced that it doesn't radiate or attract anything. This relationship between the atoms and vacuum is one of a self referencing complexity creating machine. The universe creates itself and needs no creator.
If you can prove that the universe creates itself then there is no need to have a god do it. It actually makes a god completely irrational. This finding I'm talking about is a very recent thing, so don't feel stupid for not knowing it.
Dion sent me a message saying that things can't create themselves, but doesn't accept messages himself. Insulting me and then not being able to elaborate or insult him back.
You create yourself for example. You choose the foods you eat, the actions you take etc and these things you've projected change you back. Rocks have a location and the elements of it's habitat change it's form. Atoms trade electrons. Everything is changing. I hope that helps.

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Einstein said a lot of things, like:
"I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
"I believe in Spinoza's God who reveals himself in the orderly harmony of what exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fates and actions of human beings. "
So yeah, Einstein believed in some kind of deistic or pantheistic God-force. When he says that he doesn't believe in a personal God, he very clearly means he does not believe in the *Christian God*.
Furthermore, just because he's Einstein doesn't mean he's always right. He is no more qualified to speculate about God than any other human.