Do you think in come cases "insanity" could be a subconscious "choice"?

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Just because of the minds complete dissatisfaction with “reality” or whatever we use to validate our own “sanity”
And while were at it, what exactly do you consider “insanity”?
@Happy Hiram – Cancer and diabetes are physical diseases…Your argument is flawed

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Drunk Misanthrope

Being insane is the only sense of sanity you’re going to get in a world this sh*t.
On more intellectual point, i think so, the mind can only take so much, and the body is designed to survive so it could release all the chemicals and sh*t to change your minds interpretation of life.

smahadevan39

Sunconscious mind will always do good to the mind and body.

Corollary

Insanity is repeating the same act expecting different results. It reflects the consistency of inconsistency in looking at reality. Everything you do that is reproducible validates your sanity. If you avoid trying to walking through walls then you are validating your sanity. Insanity reflects choices you make, but it is itself not a choice. You cannot choose to believe that reality is inconsistent in it’s logical framework any more than you can choose to believe that red is blue.

Phasma

I believe that one is mentally healthy to the extent that they can accept and cope with reality on reality’s terms. However, that is not to say that one must accept reality in such a way as to negate change, drive and ambition to re-create existential reality as one sees fit; it just means that if one is to make an existential choice born out of dissatisfaction, one must accept the current conditions as a prerequisite to an adequate assessment of how one will go about re-creation.
On a Freudian level, what society regards as insanity is often rooted in subconscious drives, such as repressed anger, aggression, and Freud’s posited “death drive”. In a way, this is a choice, but not in an existential way. It is personal and real, though because it is often at odds with our conscious will, I wouldn’t say that these “insane” subconscious proclivities should be conceived of as choices.

Zeev

Insanity is a misleading term by average people to name the ones who see reality differently.
it is a way to form boundaries of social behavior in favor of the majority.
to answer your question – well – sure it can be a choice in some cases to avoid following “acceptable-social-pre-determined-routes” – note famous artists and thinkers that were considered “insane” by their peers.
in some cases though, “insane” behavior is unconscious and at time can be harmful to the individual and or society .
chose your ground carefully – and forget what “they” think of your behavior….:-)

Don H

Insanity is just a label that means different from the norm.
It doesn’t really mean anything.
Love and blessings don

Happy Hiram

I think this is a dangerous and stupid idea like the idea that people bring diabetes or cancer on themselves. On the other hand all sickness is made better or worse by our attitude and choices.
Anybody who finds “reality” satisfactory is lying to themselves. Read Sartre about “Nausea” the state of really seeing reality.
Insanity is when life gives you a gallon and all you have to hold it in is a cup.

drypress

A definition: Real insanity is schizophrenia
Experience support: Having some symptoms of the disorder myself, I can describe to you,
Description of the weakness: Schizophrenia is a principled decision without rational support; in other words, the defense is the sheer evil of schizophrenia, turning the mind against it, while others can blame one as being consequently schizophrenic in reasoning, for having individual precepts that support it at all
The error in reasoning otherwise: It is a case of inductive reasoning versus mere weakness.
Mad philosophers have occurred in history, as a kind of fashion:
Schizophrenic precepts, as opposed to rationale, can be found at a related link on Yahoo Answers, discussing “mad philosophy”:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Alh4hUWXO0oiag7FHhgf7izty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20100825101045AAazoOa&show=7#profile-info-nWJLOZOGaa

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@OP
Re: physical illnesses: the mind and body cannot be separated in the context you describe. What affects the mind also effects the body. A person can (for attention or self-validation) intentionally self-deceive and weaken his immune system with the stress of having to face reality in social situations or other gauges of reliability. By extension – I strongly suspect the brain can be made schizophrenic by the stresses of having to face reality.
A man could be deemed “insane” because his thinking patterns are too shortsighted and undisciplined to prevent him from living a healthy lifestyle to prevent premature cancers. The man here is refusing to face reality and indulging in the moment. These behaviors [in the greater extreme] are symptomatic of schizophrenia.
I found this thread while looking for validation/invalidation of a hypothesis that schizophrenia is the mind developing direct feeds to subconscious inputs. Most humans wouldn’t be used to the uncensored inputs (due to brain lesions) and be overwhelmed by the inputs themselves. The feeds would be disturbing to the extent of inspiring obsessive meta-cognitions.

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