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Do you believe that ANY of these predictions for 2012 have any validity or basis in fact?

Here is a list of prediction, prophecies, and forecasts taken from the Wikipedia article about the year 2012:

2012 is sometimes claimed to be a great year of spiritual transformation (or apocalypse). Many esoteric sources interpret the completion of the thirteenth B’ak’tun cycle in the Long Count of the Maya calendar (which occurs on December 21 by the most widely held correlation) to mean there will be a major change in world order.

Accordingly, several eclectic authors claim that a major, world-changing event will take place in 2012:

* The 1995 book The Mayan Prophecies linked the Maya calendar with long-period sunspot cycles.
* The book 2012: Mayan Year of Destiny claims the Maya may have been instructed in their wisdom by disembodied entities from Orion and the Pleiades. Contact was maintained through shamanic rituals conducted in accordance with the movements of planets and stars. However, some Mayan priests living and working in Guatemala assert that there is no legitimacy to this theory.
* The 1997 book The Bible Code claims that, according to certain algorithms of the Bible code, a meteor, asteroid or comet will collide with the Earth.
* The book The Nostradamus Code speaks of a series of natural disasters caused by a comet (possibly as above) that will allow the third Antichrist to disperse his troops around the globe under the guise of aid in preparation for a possible nuclear war, although in the strictest sense it is unspecific as to nuclear war or some other natural or man caused destruction.
* The book The Orion Prophecy claims that the Earth’s magnetic field will reverse.
* The 2005 book Beyond 2012: Catastrophe or Ecstasy by Geoff Stray reviews several theories, prophecies and predictions concerning 2012 and finds where authors have used faulty information or have bent the truth to fit their theories.
* The 2006 book 2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl by Daniel Pinchbeck discusses theories of a possible global awakening to psychic connection by the year 2012, creating a noosphere.
* The 2007 book Apocalypse 2012: A Scientific Investigation into Civilization’s End by Lawrence Joseph does not make any specific new predictions, but it reviews a number of 2012 predictions made by various sources, and presents arguments for the possible existence of dangerous positive feedback loops involving solar storms, Earth’s magnetic field, cosmic rays, hurricanes, global warming, earthquakes, and supervolcanoes that may be on the verge of erupting.

Other prophecies and apocalyptic writings and hypotheses for this year include:

* Terence McKenna’s mathematical novelty theory suggests a point of singularity in which humankind will go through a great shift in consciousness.
* Some proponents of a peak oil catastrophe place major events in 2012. Richard C. Duncan’s book The Peak of World Oil Production and the Road To The Olduvai Gorge claims that the Olduvai cliff will begin and permanent blackouts will occur worldwide. Several studies predict a peak in oil production in or around 2012. [13][14][15]
* Some alien-enthusiasts (e.g. Riley Martin), along with some new-agers, believe 2012 to correspond approximately with the return of alien “watchers” or “caretakers” who might have helped the first human civilizations with developing their technology and may have been waiting for us to reach a higher level of technological and/or social advancement. Beliefs range from the extra-terrestrials having benevolent purposes – such as to help human society evolve – to malevolent purposes – such as enslavement of mankind and/or manipulation.
* There is a Hindu following indicating the appearance of an Avatar (God in human form) with God-like powers who will herald a new age. A website to this effect appears at: End of the World 2012.

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  • I SAY A PRAYER. OH GOD I AM SICK OF HEARING ABOUT THIS 2012 END OF THE WORLD ISSUE. LIKE IN THE PAST PEOPLE THOUGHT THE END OF THE WORLD WAS COMING IN 1900 BUT NEVER DID ..THEN IN YEAR 2000 PEOPLE CAME UP WITH ALL SORTS OF CRAZY NOTIONS NOW 2012.
    OK NOW PEOPLE WHO FALL FOR THE BULL SHI.T BY THE TIME 2012 COMES ABOUT YOU WILL STILL HAVE TO WORK AND PAY YOUR BILLS SO STOP BEING FOOLISH AND MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIVES..THIS HAS BEEN A HISTORICAL ISSUE THAT NEVER MATERIALIZES

  • Prophacy is an ancient and, perhaps, noble art. Having said this, it is not a science. You have completed an impressive review of prophetic speculation covering centuries, and I do admire your effort. However, given that prophacy is an art, not a science, I do not find your argument to be conclusive. Your argument reminds me of the argument of a gambler, who goes to the casino and says: 1. Someone has to win.
    2. No one has won recently. 3. I am going to the casino. Therefore, I have to win.
    There are some steps deleted from both arguments.

    First, you have relied on “experts” who predict disaster. You have not drawn on those who predict no disaster. You may ask, who is predicting no disaster? I would point to our capitalistic managers, the CEO’s of major industry, who are putting their money on the future, building production capacity, developing new products, and exploring new marketing techniques. They are predicting a vibrant, growing future, not a disaster. They rely on prophacy, too. Predicting the business environment five or ten years down the road is no more science than predicting a disaster…
    Second, prediction of disaster is easy. Planes crash on a regular basis. I might go out on a limb, and predict that a plane with red paint on its tail will crash within the next twelve months. (Probably true, because the majority of commercial airliners have some red paint on their tail, and it seems a commercial flight is lost about every six months… not probably true because I am a prophet…) Prediction of cataclysmic disaster is difficult, because true cataclysmic disasters are extremely rare. Hurricane Katrina was catastrophic, destroying a major city. It was not cataclysmic, and may actually have contributed to the growth of the American economy over the past couple years. Weather forcasters using modern meteorological tools “predicted” this problem a few days ahead of time. Where were the prophets?
    I do not believe any of the predictions you have listed have a basis in science. The fact is that these predictions have been made, but that, in and of itself, gives them no additional weight. I am much more optimistic about the future than those who have made the predictions you quote. Peace. Let’s hope the Prophets of gloom and doom are wrong.

  • I think man is already enslaved to the system. The theories are endless, but one thing we know for sure is that the first of the baby boomers will be retiring in 2011. The boomers are the largest educated generation to ever walk the earth. They have built our modern civilization. When they retire, they will be yanking their nest eggs out of the stock market. Think what havoc that will do. The U.S. economy is slipping badly now. I think it will be the end of the world as we know it. Infrastructure is as old as some of the boomers and crumbling fast. Cities will be impossible to live in soon, and with unstable weather, it will hurry the breakdown along. We won’t have long to wait.

  • I’m hoping for a global shift in consciousness and half expecting the aliens that built the pyramids and the Nazca lines to come back.

  • Pretty scary list. That’s all it is,something to scare people. So,no I don’t believe in any of it. If I’m still here five years from now I’ll let you know if I change my mind. Have you ever noticed that every year there is some disaster that happens? California is on fire again,right this very minute. We had Katrina one year and a giant tidal wave in another. It’s always something.

  • There could well be some truth in these ancient prophacies.
    Although most christians don`t seem to read their book it actually give a date for the begining of the end events in Daniel. Thats probably too clever for most of them. So I`ll tell you Daniel says that the end starts in 2010 and he even give the day countdowns..

    The book also say that there is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed, so Hay go read ypour book before making silly answers..!!

  • I bet none of these guys can predict the weather a week from now. How can they possibly predict what will happen a year from now or in 2012.

  • Yeah, just like all that stuff that was supposed to happen in 2000, remember?

    It’s all a load of unmitigated hooey.

  • Nope. but i do believe what the Bible says about how GOD is the only one that knows and tha Christ will come in the twinkling of an eye

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