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Could you sincerely answer a question this Christian sincerely doesn’t have an anwer to, about KUNDALINI?

I am a Christian (free-thinking fundy) interested in connections between Christianity and other religions.

I have been thinking about the word “sacred” and how it comes from the word “sacrum” or the tail bone. I am not Catholic, but I know that part of the ordination ceremony for priests involves the sacrum.

The kundalini force, which as a Christian, I am not really interested in messing with, is said to reside at the base of the spine, waiting to be awakened.

How was connection between Kundalini and sacred, sacraments, made? I tried to do some net research, and ended up at a freaky Satanist site. Also, I realize there might not be a direct connection between the Kundalini and the “sacred” concept of Christianity. They may both derive from an earlier source, but I don’t know what it is.
Well heaven, this site and even Adoop kamar down there (who sounds like a Hindu) agree that kundalini energy is not something to play with. Fear is a smart thing sometimes.

http://www.innerexplorations.com/ewtext/ke.htm
Ok Vickykamakazi—I’ll check it again after you’ve edited it. By the way, edit means “cut”.
Kendal–y’mean the Book that God uses and Satan hates? That’s what I read, too, but Christians do use the word sacred, don’t they, whether it’s in the KJV or not? Like the words Trinity, and Baptize. Don’t worry, I talked to the Pilates instructor at the YMCA last week, and told her I was uncomfortable when she introduced yoga moves into the class. People think yoga is just exercise and stretching. It’s much more.
OK, thanks to the input of all of you from different faiths.

Here’s what I’m coming up with so far. The word SACRed is not in the KJV Bible, but the words SACRifice and conSECRAted are. Is there a deep spiritual link between kundalini energy of the Hindus, stored in the incorruptible tailbone (sacrum) mentioned by the Muslims, and the Christian KJV Bible words “consecrated” and “sacrifice?” Or is the connection due to nothing more than the fact that the KJV Bible was translated from Hebrew and Greek (whose words for holy, consecrated, and sacrifice sound nothing like “sacrum”)into English which is a language derived from Latin (whose words for holy, consecrated, sacrifice DO sound like sacrum)?

The significance of the tailbone in the ordination of Roman Catholic priests is still intriguing, though.
OK, I think I have an answer for those considering pursuing kundalini. Pursue Jesus instead.

“Come unto me, all ye who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest,” Jesus says. Take my yoke upon you and learn of me, for I am meek and lowly of heart.”

When we sit at the feet of Jesus, as Martha’s sister Mary did, learning to be meek and lowly of heart as He is, our sacrum (sacri?), and all its potential for terrific kundalini power, is literally UNDERNEATH us, and we ourselves are under Jesus Christ’s direction, not kundalini’s.

As Jesus said to Martha, who thought Mary should be DOING more, “Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things: but one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.”

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  • I dont know the answer to your question….

    kundalini literally means “coiled up” energy in the body…
    all experieces according to theory are coiled up at the base of the spine (the sacrum)this kundalini theory says….scientists say that the kundalini is like a concentrated thought…the body talks to the brain and brain to the body thru auxilary and motor nerves?

    kundalini is controlling those nerve currents and sending them in one direction with concentration to the brain like in a battery

    dont mess with kundalini….it is said in all hindu scriptures that it is dangerous ..leads to insanity …the scriptures and many hindu spiritual leaders said so…

    you need a experienced teacher….

    also i found some western research website about the effects of wrong meditation/kundalini…stuff….

  • The word sacred does not appear in my Bible, if it does in yours, i suggest you get an authorised King James Version.

    Secondly, anything which gains power from self is satanism. Anything which believes you can gain power from anything else but God is satanism.

    Gaining power from a part of your body which is 3 inches from your reproductive organs is not smart. Early sun worship was all about fertility, hence the orgies.

    Jesus Christ is our only source of power, through the Holy Spirit, given by God the Father.

    Please don’t get involved in this practice, Faith is not a feeling but a belief.

  • i am a christian. and i am a very confident preacher.

    understand that all religions even Christians are operated by Satan.

    The first murder was for true & false worship.

    read genesis cain & abel murder story.

    well the murderers list is

    #krishna- kill even your brother because life is a krukshetra (murder war, or war place)

    #ram- kill your enemy.specially when marriage is ditched.

    # sikhism- they carry a knife, defence is must, kill your enemy

    #budhism- monks invented karate – self defence -kill your enemy

    #muslims-kill all unbelievers

    # catholics- killed 50 milloin christians called as dark ages

    # christian usa- killing people in iraq,iran visit http://www.bushflash.com go to animation than download- faith

    Jesus warned us of false prophets – they are prophets (certainly Christians)

    Ephesians 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
    6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
    6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].

    Mathew 5:38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
    5:39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
    5:40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have [thy] cloak also.
    5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
    5:42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
    5:43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
    5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
    5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
    5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
    5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more [than others]? do not even the publicans so?
    5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

    Each of the religion has the theory of eternal life but same as Christians. That when a person dies he or she goes to heaven or hell,immediately. But that’s not true, either.

    Jesus has his body.there is no difference between body & soul.

    Read these verses.

    John 20:24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.
    20:25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
    20:26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: [then] came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace [be] unto you.
    20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust [it] into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
    20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
    20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed [are] they that have not seen, and [yet] have believed.
    20:30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
    20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

    acts 1:1 The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,
    1:2 Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
    1:3 To whom also he showed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:

    1:10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
    1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

    1 Corinthians 15:51 Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
    15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
    15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal [must] put on immortality.
    15:54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
    15:55 O death, where [is] thy sting? O grave, where [is] thy victory?
    15:56 The sting of death [is] sin; and the strength of sin [is] the law.
    15:57 But thanks [be] to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Ecclesiastics 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
    9:6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any [thing] that is done under the sun.

    Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

    1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit.

    Man does not have soul but man is a living soul.

    Revelation of Jesus Christ 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
    20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
    20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
    20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
    20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection.
    20:6 Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
    20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
    20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom [is] as the sand of the sea.
    20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
    20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
    20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
    20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
    20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
    20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
    20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

    21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
    21:2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
    21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God [is] with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, [and be] their God.
    21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
    21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
    21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
    21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
    21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
    21:9 And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will show thee the bride, the Lamb’s wife.
    21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
    21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light [was] like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
    21:12 And had a wall great and high, [and] had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are [the names] of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
    21:13 On the east three gates; on the north three gates; on the south three gates; and on the west three gates.
    21:14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.
    21:15 And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
    21:16 And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
    21:17 And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred [and] forty [and] four cubits, [according to] the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
    21:18 And the building of the wall of it was [of] jasper: and the city [was] pure gold, like unto clear glass.
    21:19 And the foundations of the wall of the city [were] garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first foundation [was] jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony; the fourth, an emerald;
    21:20 The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst.
    21:21 And the twelve gates [were] twelve pearls: every several gate was of one pearl: and the street of the city [was] pure gold, as it were transparent glass.
    21:22 And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
    21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb [is] the light thereof.
    21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it.
    21:25 And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there.
    21:26 And they shall bring the glory and honour of the nations into it.
    21:27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither [whatsoever] worketh abomination, or [maketh] a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

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  • Kundalini or the Serpent Force is supposedly coiled around the Spinal Cord and originates from the sacral region.Awakening the Kundalini involves unleashing the serpent power and can only be done under the close supervision of a Guru or Master.The technique involves opening up the various “landings” smoothly without causing harm to the balance of the individual.Ultimately you attain self-realization or Samadhi or Nirvana. Frankly I am not aware of the relationship with the concept of Christianity.

  • Jewish mystics speak of the Shekinah, which appears to be the equivalent of kundalini or shakti, at least according to some. You might want to check our Quabalah (Kaballah) if it isn’t too scary for you.

  • Kundalini and sacred or sacraments do not have any connection whatsoever. Kundalini skills attempts to awaken the spiritual powers within and Christianity teaches moral discipline and reliance on God for salvations.

  • We all as believers..(im a muslim)….believe in being recreated on the judgment day…so they say we will be recreated from the last bone in the sacrum…..and that this bone does not degrade no matter what….thats my info:-)

  • do not fear anything but God…..your body is a temple and it must be explored to the fullest to enter his presence the fullest…..reach further than your grasp………open up all of your energy spots on your body and the kundalini will flow.

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