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by Terry:

Does God exist?
AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION.
An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty.
He asks one of his new students to stand and …..
Prof: So you believe in God?
Student: Absolutely, sir.
Prof: Is God good?
Student: Sure.
Prof: Is God all-powerful?
Student: Yes.
Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn’t. How is this God good then? Hmm?
(Student is silent.)
Prof: You can’t answer, can you? Let’s start again, young fellow. Is God good?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Is Satan good?
Student: No.
Prof: Where does Satan come from?
Student: From…God…
Prof: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it? And God did make everything. Correct?
Student: Yes.
Prof: So who created evil?
Student does not answer.
Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they?
Student: Yes, sir.
Prof: So, who created them?
Student has no answer.
Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son…Have you ever seen God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
Student: No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.
Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student: Yes.
Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.
Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat ?
Prof: Yes.
Student: And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes.
Student: No sir. There isn’t.
(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold.
Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.
(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)
Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?
Student: You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light…. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it’s called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?
Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure.
Sir, science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.
To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.
Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved
from a monkey?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)
Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.)
Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?
(The class breaks out into laughter.)
Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable
protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir.
With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)
Prof: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.
Student: That is it sir… The link between man & god is FAITH.
That is all that keeps things moving & alive.
Does God exist?
AN INTERESTING CONVERSATION.
An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty.
He asks one of his new students to stand and …..
Prof: So you believe in God?
Student: Absolutely, sir.
Prof: Is God good?
Student: Sure.
Prof: Is God all-powerful?
Student: Yes.
Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn’t. How is this God good then? Hmm?
(Student is silent.)
Prof: You can’t answer, can you? Let’s start again, young fellow. Is God good?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Is Satan good?
Student: No.
Prof: Where does Satan come from?
Student: From…God…
Prof: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student: Yes.
Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it? And God did make everything. Correct?
Student: Yes.
Prof: So who created evil?
Student does not answer.
Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they?
Student: Yes, sir.
Prof: So, who created them?
Student has no answer.
Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son…Have you ever seen God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student: No, sir.
Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
Student: No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.
Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student: Yes.
Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.
Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat ?
Prof: Yes.
Student: And is there such a thing as cold?
Prof: Yes.
Student: No sir. There isn’t.
(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold.
Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.
(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)
Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?
Student: You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light…. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it’s called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?
Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure.
Sir, science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.
To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.
Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved
from a monkey?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)
Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.)
Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?
(The class breaks out into laughter.)
Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable
protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir.
With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable.)
Prof: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.
Student: That is it sir… The link between man & god is FAITH.
That is all that keeps things moving & alive.

Answer by nondescript
Wow, that’s a lot of nonsense. BTW, it’s an old argument and one of the more lame ones.
First, no science professor would be that ignorant about physics. Second, the argument is still making the claim, though indirectly, that wishful thinking is a good reason to believe a god exists. Sorry, but you don’t make the case. There is real evidence of how heat works. Evolution has been observed first hand, including macro-evolution. There is also ample evidence of the professor’s brain.
There is also ample evidence in all of the world’s religions that they are all man-made. All “holy” texts have human authors and there is no real evidence of anything “divine” about them.
On the other hand, the word “god” has a vague definition. If you press a religious person about what, exactly this thing called a god is that they believe exists, they can’t really give you a straight answer. They’ll either cite characteristics that are untestable, like “creator of the universe” or “perfect”, or they will use other terms that also have no real defintion, like “spirit”.
So, your cute story is really just crap. I can see how you think it makes a salient point, but it really fails to do so.

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Bebe

Your story is untrue. It’s easy to win an argument when you get to speak for both sides.

Mike S

So that must mean the Easter bunny and Zeus and tooth fairy are real by the same logic. Reported as spam. This is for questions, not storys.

Kenyai

I am the skeptic. I am the agnostic. I do not have sufficient evidence to support a definite conclusion of God’s existence, nor God’s nonexistence. Let us be good and work to end suffering and death in this world, and we will surely win.

Mariah

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Ms. Taurus

I only want to know one thing…
How did Yahoo let you post that all together and not have to continue as additional details…
As for the text, it’s crap, it’s Friday, I’m not wasting half my night on that…

yy4me_simphomania

Looks to me like a straw man (who needs a brain).

M&S

Very nice. Prepare to be lambasted by atheists.

DonJuan

didn’t you just ask this?

thatguyjoe

You posted this long urban legend a few questions ago. Give it up, it’s as historically false as its arguments are rationally weak.

Jennifer Juniper

Perhaps this was written before things such as anatomy, cat scans and MRI’s? At any rate, the fact that the professor is able to move, speak and think is evidence enough. No faith involved.

Soulful Kris

More Christian propoganda not based on fact.

Moiraes Fate

rofl. Meaningless. The professor was a fool who let himself be put on the spot by a student when he should have known better and had proper answers ready.
You see, heat can be called the absence of cold. Light can be called the absence of dark.
Its not that hard to throw those things back in the students face, but the professor didn’t pick up on it.
The student is a fool. The professor is as well.

sortega

How long did it take for you to type all that garbage. I’m pretty sure, if we looked for your brain it wouldn’t be there.

Hand in Hand

I am a Christian.
That argument is a bit one sideded….. I mean at first, the student couldn’t answer the proffesers and then the proffeser did the same for the student. But the truth is, if either of them had any knowledge of what theey believed in, and for the professer science, then they would have been able to give better answers to the questions proposed, seems to me that neither at the time were very smart of what the trusted.

punch

The only thing that I can say is, So god is absent? You can’t prove he isn’t. And no professor would ever say that we evolved from monkeys! That is not what happened and they would never teach that. As to the professors brain, we see the affects of that brain. The affects are measurable. As to observing evolution, well we do have the fossil record. And the absences of heat is not cold. Cold can be measured, it can be created (unlike darkness) So that is false that cold is the absence of heat. What does god have? So once again, You haven’t proved anything. Go have a cookie.

ZER0 C00L

Apparently this professor has never heard of an MRI. He could go get a picture taken of his brain and give it to the student. In fact, he could invite the student to come along and watch the MRI in progress.
And perhaps the student has never seen the fossil record. And perhaps the professor has NO clue what evolution really is, considering he would have had a very different response to the question of whether or not it’s been “observed” if he DID in fact have a clue.
This whole thing is silly, and as another user pointed out, just as much “proof” of the Judeo-Christian deity as it is for Quetzalcoatl, Zeus, Freya, Ninsun, Woden, Ra, Dionysus, Mithra, Zoroaster, Krishna, etc.

Raoul Duke

I think you may have just shown that stupidity is more than just the absence of intelligence.

Wouldn't you love to know?

This must have been the retarded philosophy professor. Apparently, I did better than him. on that.
“Is there cold”
“No, there is an abscence and lowering of heat.”
“Duality doesn’t exist.”
“So, how is evil in existance if God is good? There’s a duality.”

Don't fear the reaper

If you think that this little story can prove G-d one way or another, you are lost. If he exists, he is beyond comprehension and defies capture using human words

Spookshow Baby

Well by golly! Proof that Thor and the tooth fairy exists!!!

Ragmuffin

Wow! Little long but I read it to the end.I’m sure others did but won’t comment either.Good One!

Bronze

evolution is taught as a theory. people are not taught to have ‘faith’ that it is the truth. they are told up front that it is a theory and an ongoing possess. anther thing about science, science EXPLAINS its claims and ideas, and there is no punishment for disagreeing or not believing. science encourages open mindedness.
religion is different, they take absurd ideas like invisible sky fairies and brainwash people into obeying an ancient book. its very cult like. they punish open mindedness, it is a sin to simply question god.

Dutchy

It has been posted before. Could you at least in your next posting of this nonsense keep it a bit compact?

Chance20_m

Um, that proffessor sucked if he couldn’t answer those simple rhetorical devices the student was using. Not that I believe that actually happened.

Adam G

This reminds me of the email that was going around years ago about the student who went up against a teacher in biology class and the teacher said if your God exists, pray to him and ask him to prevent this piece of chalk I’m about to drop from hitting the ground.
The chalk rolled down the teachers sleeve and the teacher converted on the spot.
It’s nothing more than a campfire story.

ShiKobe

Cooooooooooooooooooool the professor Got powned.

missgigglebunny

Whatever floats your boat. U can believe what u want and I’ll still believe what I want.

doug0102

Not funny, not amusing, not cute.
A “story” like this can impress only stupid and brainwashed religious fanatics, who are screaming now: “Wow, this student showed him!”
Here’s a much shorter one for you:
If God is all powerful, can he create a stone so heavy that even he cannot lift it? Yes? Than how is he all powerful, if he cannot lift it? No? Then how is he all powerful at all?
Did I prove anything? Of course not. It’s just a stupid way to look at this, but at least it’s cute.
You want believe in God, be my guest, just leave me alone with this nonsense.

Lawrence

Buddhism is a religion that acknowledges that some things are unseen, or even unseeable, BUT
it doesn’t make the leap that there is a god or creator; the universe does not need one to exist and function.

MoonUnit

As though any self-respecting science professor would say his lectures should be taken on faith lol
It’s not faith that gets a rocket into space. It is complex mathematical equations and science. It’s not faith that allows doctors to perform complex surgeries. It’s a scientific knowledge of the body and how it works.
This was a lame and tired comparison of faith and science.

sunshine

?????? free what ????

papito rico

Bravo! (applause, waiving the hands in air) Bravo!
I must admit you are one tough girl, don’t let the evil atheist deny you of posting your proof of god! who are they to question such minor details! I’m with you sister, in the absence of hard core facts, lets keep using god rambling sentences (is working) they are almost there. pretty soon, you will convert them. You are in the right path my child!
I will take your hand (in case you get lost) and help you guide your little soul to the abyss! i mean heaven (cough, cough)

Blackie's Butterfly

Both life and death are necessary. Both light and dark are necessary. As the day is to the night, the night is to the day. The darkness (death), which is necessary, should not be our fear, nor should we be ruled by it. The light (life), which is necessary, should not be our salvation, nor should we be ruled by it. We should walk neither in the light or the darkness, but rather in the shadows that are created from them. The shadow (mystery) IS the Almighty. A shadow is a region of darkness where light is blocked. It occupies ALL of the space behind an opaque (obscure & unintelligible) object with light in front of it. The cross section of a shadow is a two-dimensional silhouette, or reverse projection of the object blocking the light. It begins as the light moving through but is blocked depending on the density. When we rise above the illusion of our shadows, and hide under the wings in truth, your shield is found. Death keeps us under and life does not save us. That which springs forth from the two, leads to one. It ALL belongs to the Keeper of Shadows. Few have found His home, and ALL have yet to see His face.
Psalms 91
He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
Because thou hast made the Lord, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.
Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honor him.
With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.

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