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Arguments against or for reincarnation?

What are some good arguments either for or against reincarnation? I’m looking into reincarnation, energy, consciousness, the mind etc for personal reasons, not at college or anything. I would like to read other people’s ideas. Take your time to answer, if you are interested that is. 🙂 Thanks in advance.

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  1. For: deja vu – remembering stuff that has not actually happened; the fact that energy is never created or destroyed but simply changed through reactions
    Against: no hard proof as once you’re dead you can’t remember; there are more people in the world than in the past
    Personally, I do believe in reincarnation but there are plenty of people who don’t.

  2. Do you really believe people like Sadaam Hussein, Bill Gates, the Rockefeller family, etc became rich and powerful because they were good people in their last life?

  3. PRO:
    1) There is anecdotal evidence of people remembering places, situations and behaviors that they apparently have never encountered.
    CON:
    1) All evidence for reincarnation is anecdotal. There is no observable, empirical evidence.

  4. i am with it
    i dont beleive in god or anything.. but what i think happens when you die is one of these
    1 of 7 things happens when you die
    1.when you die you go into a permanent dream mode were you live in dreams
    2.you see nothing all you do is roam around bodiless in a barran wastelandof your mind…
    3.you have a never ending erotic fantasy
    4.you dont see/hear/do anything its just black you think your awake but you cant tell..
    5. you become a porn star in the 90’s
    6. you travel ALL TEH WAY BACK IN TIME MILLIONS APON BILLIONS OF YEARS and start forming into shapes then human, then you start building cizulizations and then life would go liek it did..then die and repeat
    7.you roam around space for eternity basking at its wonderfully glorius beauty..

  5. There is evidence supporting the idea of reincarnation. (See the work of Ian Stevenson, University of Virginia) Of course, this is not enough to say it’s true, but it is interesting.

  6. Pro: Nothing.
    Con: Absolutely no evidence for it. It would require a soul or something similar, but there’s no evidence for that either. It has been proven beyond doubt that our knowledge is stored in the brain so how could we possibly remember a past life if we have a completely different brain?

  7. well, its just stupid. i mean reincarnation? the closest to that thats actually real is just becoming soil for the earth that will grow plants and become food for animals. but your soul being born into a new creature is retarded, bcuz theres no such thing as a soul. its just nonsense. for one there isnt a single person or animal that is walking around with memories of a past life and knows the things that john doe did when he was alive…..anyone that says they have memory of a past life is bull…do the research on whatever they say and you’ll find its garbage…..reincarnation, thats just as dumb as ghosts and ufos and religion

  8. I see no evidence of it, nor does it make any sense. A large part of who we are is biological. Do you carry the same DNA with you from incarnation to incarnation? If so, how? If not, how are you “you” in each incarnation?
    Some say we are reincarnated in order to accumulate good karma or pay back bad karma, etc., and/or in order to continue learning as we go. As we remember nothing at all of any past life, how do we benefit, how do we “learn”? If we were learning, why aren’t people getting smarter?
    And why does the population continue to increase? Where did all the new souls come from? Why were there so many fewer souls incarnated and so many more now?
    I used to believe in such things, and my mother still does. She has informed me very matter-of-factly, “they aren’t making souls anymore”. I don’t know if they stopped on a Thursday at noon, or what, but, according to her, it stopped at some point. Who are “they” and why did “they” stop? She also told me that the souls were just in other parts of the universe, on Uranus, for example, which is a university for souls, and they are all coming here now for some huge event which is on its way.
    We want to believe we continue to exist whether in an afterlife in heaven or in another life via reincarnation, for our egos just cannot conceive of themselves ceasing to be, but the greatest likelihood is that we end, nor has anyone any evidence of anything else other than their wishful thoughts. Is reincarnation and/or the afterlife limited to humans or do all biological beings continue after death? Naked mole rats, cockroaches, viruses, fungi, amoebae, our ex-husbands…?
    ~Ex-Christian. Former new ager. Atheist. Rationalist.

  9. There’s no good evidence that I know of for the reality of reincarnation. Nonetheless, I have a distinct recollection of the final days and hours, and the deaths, of two former existences–in the latter of which I recognize members of my family in this life, one of whom remembers me as well. I have no doubt that by hypnotic regression (Ã la Bridey Murphy) I could recall dates, names and places to substantiate my memories–but the important thing is that, since the memory came back when I was fifteen years old in this life, I have consciously been that former personality (and the one before), and I have seen my life as a working out of the karmic evolution of one same psychic entity. Funny, it’s been so much a part of my life that I haven’t even really thought, until just now, of finding a competent hypnotherapist and digging into it–But as it happens, I have an appointment with a new psychiatrist this afternoon, and I think I’ll put it to him. Thanks for reminding me.

  10. I believe that our souls continue from one lifetime to another for the purpose of maturing and developing. Each lifetime offers a different experience and an opportunity to enrich our soul. We are involved in choosing the next lifetime in between lives. Reincarnation makes sense of the unfair distribution of situations. Why do some people live for a year and some 100 years? Why do some people encounter many catastrophes? With each lifetime, there are unresolved issues that arise, which may appear in future lifetimes. The term I use for these issues are “Past Life Legacies”. We see them as symptoms that out of context to our current lives, such as physical and emotional symptoms. Heal them and we can live more fulfilling lives now and in future lives.

  11. Against: (1) Skeptics are new souls who have no past lives to recall, or who had an unpleasant life they do not wish to recall. (2) Skeptics have such an unpleasant present life that they can’t imagine wanting to return. (3) Skeptics lump the idea of reincarnation with unsubstantiated, even absurd, paranormal claims. (4) Fundamentally religious persons who have been told reincarnation is a lie are terrified that past-life memories are demonic in origin. (5) There are many bizarre (ridiculous) ancient superstitions attached to reincarnation, such as a “bad” person coming back as a bug. Although eastern religions teach some good things, too, they also teach a lot of nutty things — as all religions do. (6) A huge element of the lunatic fringe has always exploited and distorted the reality of reincarnation, with claims like “Elvis was King Tut” and other nonsense, including pay-me psychics who claim to “read” past lives for a hefty fee – all of which makes a silly circus out of what should be respected as a very real spiritual truth.
    For: Evidence, such as the serious research of Ian Stevenson, among others, which so impressed brilliant scientist and dedicated, tireless skeptic of the paranormal, Carl Sagan, that he wrote the following in his book (pg 300) “Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark” [emphasis mine]: “At the time of writing there are three claims in the ESP field which, in my opinion, deserve serious study: … (3) that young children sometimes report the details of A PREVIOUS LIFE, which upon checking turn out to be ACCURATE and which they COULD NOT HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IN ANY WAY OTHER THAN REINCARNATION. I pick these claims … as examples of contentions that MIGHT BE TRUE.” Sagan’s admission alone that reincarnation is possible is a clear indication that there is a certain amount of actual evidence for it.
    Reincarnation happens because we are eternal, each one of us a tiny fragment of “God” (or the Cosmos: everything that is). And every one of us, as little pieces of the divine, have free will, with which comes the ability to achieve wholeness and perfection, through our experiences of many, many lives on Earth. In a sense all life collectively is sort of like a portion of “God.”
    It’s amazing how much can be found in ancient scriptures that whisper the truth of reincarnation, if we are open to recognize it. For example, the “me/I” in this long biblical quote that follows is this portion of “God” I’m referring to.
    It is the eternal soul of all beings, which existed virtually always at the side of “God”, and which eventually became “mankind”:
    “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old; I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began. When there were no oceans, I was given birth, when there were no springs abounding with water; before the mountains were settled in place, before the hills, I was given birth, before he made the earth or its fields or any of the dust of the world.
    “I was there when he set the heavens in place, when he marked out the horizon on the face of the deep, when he established the clouds above and fixed securely the fountains of the deep, when he gave the sea its boundary so the waters would not overstep his command, and when he marked out the foundations of the earth.
    “Then I was the craftsman at his side. I was filled with delight day after day, rejoicing always in his presence, rejoicing in his whole world and delighting in mankind.”
    -Proverbs 8:22-31
    I was born with distinct and detailed memories of my last life. I am a “devout” Reincarnationist. After decades of studying the subject and contemplating life’s mysteries, I have concluded several truths – true for me and I trust for everyone.
    Reincarnation represents you and I (and each individual) having control. What we do changes our lives and the lives of those around us, either positively or negatively. Here is our university of higher learning, right here in the physical realm. This is where “God” “lets go” and lets us make our own way, a little like the mother bird nudges her young out of the nest when they’re ready to survive on their own. We choose to become incarnate beings because we want to experience independence and learn and perfect ourselves through this independence. (You can see the allegorical analogy in the Garden of Eden myth: Two little beings who choose to leave the protection of their divine world of the spirit and become autonomous individuals, struggling and learning in a physical world. Not surprising, as reincarnation was an ancient truth long before Genesis was written.)
    We make choices constantly, both those we make willingly and other choices we are pressured to make by others. Eventually we are faced with the consequences of the choices we have made, and we learn through these consequences. Whether we accept or reject the truth of reincarnation matters very little. We still return, and we still learn. Aware of it consciously or not, we still continue this wonderful, enlightening and exciting adventure called life.

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