Your site popped up when I googled “names of 11 stars in genesis” and I read your answers here.
I don’t think astrology is “against” Christianity at all. The Bible has people referring to stars and the sun and moon in Genesis very early on in mankind as prophet has illustrated. The people in Genesis no doubt looked to the moon and sun to forecast their seasons of planting and harvest. I thought it remarkable that Joseph referred to 11 stars in Genesis 37:9. The major and minor prophets of the Old Testament refer many times to the moon going dark and the heavens splitting open.
Yes. The Bible speaks against divination and against consulting the stars for advice or counsel. Although I know at least one Christian on this forum who has not gotten that part.
I would say Christianity is against astrology! Astrology is worshiping and consulting the creation, which only God, the Creator, is worthy of. We cannot give the glory due to Him to another in place of Him.
PS. The wisemen (aka the kings) were not Christians.
In the first mention of the heavenly bodies, the purpose of the Creator is clearly stated. Genesis 1:14-19 reveals the fact that they were created, not only “to divide the day from the night, and to give light upon the earth”; but, they were set “for SIGNS, and for SEASONS, and for days and years”. The figure Polysyndeton (see Appendix 6) emphasises these four purposes, and bids us single them out and consider them separately and independtly. They are “for SIGNS”. Hebrew ‘oth, from ‘athah, to come. Signs, therefore, of something or some One to come. Those who understand them are enlightened by them. Those who do not may well be “dismayed” (Jeremiah 10:2). The stars are numbered and named. There are twelve signs of the Zodiac, called “the stars” Genesis 37:9 (eleven of which bowed down to Joseph’s, the twelfth). The word Zodiac means the degrees or steps, which mark the stages of the sun’s path through the heavens, corresponding with the twelve months. The stars were all named by God (Psalm 147:4). Most of these names have been lost; but over 100 are preserved through the Arabic and Hebrew, and are used by astronomers to-day, though their meaning is unknown to them. Many of them are used in Scripture as being well known, though the translations are somewhat speculative: for example Job 9:9. Hebrew ‘ash (Arcturus, Revised Version the Bear), kesil (Authorized Version Orion), kimah (Pleiades). Job 38:31, 32, mazzaroth (margin, and Revised Version, the twelve signs; margin, the signs of the Zodiac). Compare 2 Kings 23:5, ‘ash (Arcturus with her sons, Revised Version the Bear with her train, both versions being incorrect as to the names). See also Isaiah 13:10. Amos 5:8. These names and the twelve “signs” go back to the foundation of the world. Jewish tradition, preserved by Josephus, assures us that this Bible astronomy was invented by Adam, Seth and Enoch. We see evidence of it as early as Genesis 11:4, where we read of the Tower of Babel having “his top with the heavens”. There is nothing about the wrongly supplied italics “may reach unto”. The words, doubtless, refer to the signs of the Zodiac, pictured at the top of the Tower, like the Zodiacs in the Temples of Denderah, and Esneh in Egypt. The Babylonian “Creation Tablets” refer to them, though their primitve meaning had been either corrupted or lost. It is the same with the Greek mythology, which is a corruption of primitive truth which had been lost and perverted. We have to remember that our written Scriptures began with Moses, say in 1490 B.C.: and thus, for more than 2,500 years, the revelation of the hope which God gave in Genesis 3:15 was preserved in the naming of the stars and their grouping in Signs and Constellations. These groupings are quite arbitrary. There is nothing in the positions of the stars to suggest the pictures originally drawn around them. The Signs and Constellations were first designed and named; then, the pictures were drawn around them respectively. Thus the truth was enshrined and written in the heavens, where no human hand could touch it. In later years, when Israel came into the possession of the written “Scriptures of truth”, there was no longer any need for the more ancient writing in the heavens. Hence, the original teaching gradually faded away and the heathen, out of the smattering they had heard by tradition, evolved their cosmogonies and mythologies. Psalm 19 contains a vivid reference to these two Books of revelation. That is why there is the very sudden change of subject at verse 7; a change which still perplexes and baffles all the skill of commentators. The teaching is preserved in the structure of the Psalm, where we have
A | 1 – 4 -. The Heavens. B | – 4 – 6. “In them, the sun”. A | 7 – 10. The Scriptures. B | 11 – 14. “In them 1, Thy servant”. In this structure every line emphasises the elaboration of the design: for, while, in the first half, all the terms are literary, in the latter half they are all astronomical, thus welding the two portions of the Psalm into one harmonious whole. For the meaning of the words, reference must be made to the Psalm itself. We can only note here that the first part does not refer to the wonders of creation, but to the eloquence of its teaching and revelation: they “declare”, tell, or narrate (Genesis 24:66. Psalm 71:15), they “utter speech”, but without words (omit “where” in verse 3); Hebrew = they “show forth”, exhibit (Genesis 3:11. Psalm 97:6; 111:6); they prophesy “day by day”, “night by night”. The question is: What do they prophesy? What knowledge do they show forth? What glory do they tell of? The answer is – Genesis 3:15. The one great central truth of all prophecy – the coming One, Who, though He should suffer, should in the end crush the head of the old serpent, the Devil. But, where are we to open this book? Where are we to break into this circle of the Zodiacal signs?
*announcer* christians are up by two but wait here comes the astrologers coming down left field. The christians prepare…wait…out of nowhere comes the atheists and a HUGE EXPLOSION….OMG!… The dust settles…I see something…YES! the atheists have one it!
The Law that God gave to Moses specifically warned the Israelites against looking for omens. “There should not be found in you . . . anyone who employs divination . . . or anyone who looks for omens,” the Law stated. “Everybody doing these things is something detestable to Jehovah.”—Deuteronomy 18:10, 12.
Although astrology is not mentioned by name in that scripture, the prohibition evidently included the practice. The Encyclopædia Britannica notes that astrology is a “type of divination that consists in forecasting earthly and human events by means of observing and interpreting the fixed stars, the Sun, the Moon, and the planets.” All forms of divination—whether based on the stars or other objects—violate God’s guidelines. Why? There is good reason.
Rather than attribute our successes or failures to the stars, the Bible clearly states that “whatever a man is sowing, this he will also reap.” (Galatians 6:7) God holds each of us responsible for our actions, since we are free moral agents. (Deuteronomy 30:19, 20; Romans 14:12) True, we may suffer an accident or an illness because of events beyond our control. But such calamities, the Scriptures explain, are due to “time and unforeseen occurrence,” not our horoscope.—Ecclesiastes 9:11.
Astrology is a Babylonian corruption of the Hebrew Mazzaroth, which according to tradition was developed before the Great Flood by Adam, Seth and Enoch.
Under God’s direction they chose 12 constellations and named them in such a way as to tell the story of the coming Redeemer. When the earliest descendants of Adam looked up into the night sky they could reassure themselves that God would one day send them someone who would free the creation from its bondage to sin, like He had promised Eve in Genesis 3:15.
This is all documented in a book by J.A. Seiss called, “The Gospel in the Stars.” (The study of the corruption we call astrology was the reason the Tower of Babel was destroyed and the people scattered. God made studying astrology a crime punishable by death.)
I believe that most Christian denominations will not condone the use of astrology. The two most popular forms of astrology (Roman/Greek and Chinese) were created by people who believed that the gods were telling them things through the stars.
I am no “expert” on the subject, but I have talked to Catholic priests, Protestant pastors, and other theological experts about this. They say (more elloquently) about the same thing.
No. What is “against” the bible is the belief that the machinations of astrology supersede the will of god, which is pretty clear if you look for it. The book of Genesis states that the stars were placed in the heavens “for signs.”
I don’t know about christian religion but astrology is against islam so it should be against christianity because the two religions are from the same god
yes
Your site popped up when I googled “names of 11 stars in genesis” and I read your answers here.
I don’t think astrology is “against” Christianity at all. The Bible has people referring to stars and the sun and moon in Genesis very early on in mankind as prophet has illustrated. The people in Genesis no doubt looked to the moon and sun to forecast their seasons of planting and harvest. I thought it remarkable that Joseph referred to 11 stars in Genesis 37:9. The major and minor prophets of the Old Testament refer many times to the moon going dark and the heavens splitting open.
Not at all, superstitions and fantasies can be whatever you want them to be.
What exactly were the three kings if they weren’t astrologers?
The bible wasn’t against them was it? and it says that they were correct in their horoscope.
Yes. The Bible speaks against divination and against consulting the stars for advice or counsel. Although I know at least one Christian on this forum who has not gotten that part.
I would say Christianity is against astrology!
Astrology is worshiping and consulting the creation, which only God, the Creator, is worthy of. We cannot give the glory due to Him to another in place of Him.
PS. The wisemen (aka the kings) were not Christians.
In the first mention of the heavenly bodies, the purpose of the Creator is clearly stated. Genesis 1:14-19 reveals the fact that they were created, not only “to divide the day from the night, and to give light upon the earth”; but, they were set “for SIGNS, and for SEASONS, and for days and years”.
The figure Polysyndeton (see Appendix 6) emphasises these four purposes, and bids us single them out and consider them separately and independtly.
They are “for SIGNS”.
Hebrew ‘oth, from ‘athah, to come. Signs, therefore, of something or some One to come. Those who understand them are enlightened by them. Those who do not may well be “dismayed” (Jeremiah 10:2).
The stars are numbered and named. There are twelve signs of the Zodiac, called “the stars” Genesis 37:9 (eleven of which bowed down to Joseph’s, the twelfth). The word Zodiac means the degrees or steps, which mark the stages of the sun’s path through the heavens, corresponding with the twelve months.
The stars were all named by God (Psalm 147:4). Most of these names have been lost; but over 100 are preserved through the Arabic and Hebrew, and are used by astronomers to-day, though their meaning is unknown to them. Many of them are used in Scripture as being well known, though the translations are somewhat speculative: for example Job 9:9. Hebrew ‘ash (Arcturus, Revised Version the Bear), kesil (Authorized Version Orion), kimah (Pleiades). Job 38:31, 32, mazzaroth (margin, and Revised Version, the twelve signs; margin, the signs of the Zodiac). Compare 2 Kings 23:5, ‘ash (Arcturus with her sons, Revised Version the Bear with her train, both versions being incorrect as to the names). See also Isaiah 13:10. Amos 5:8.
These names and the twelve “signs” go back to the foundation of the world. Jewish tradition, preserved by Josephus, assures us that this Bible astronomy was invented by Adam, Seth and Enoch.
We see evidence of it as early as Genesis 11:4, where we read of the Tower of Babel having “his top with the heavens”. There is nothing about the wrongly supplied italics “may reach unto”. The words, doubtless, refer to the signs of the Zodiac, pictured at the top of the Tower, like the Zodiacs in the Temples of Denderah, and Esneh in Egypt.
The Babylonian “Creation Tablets” refer to them, though their primitve meaning had been either corrupted or lost. It is the same with the Greek mythology, which is a corruption of primitive truth which had been lost and perverted.
We have to remember that our written Scriptures began with Moses, say in 1490 B.C.: and thus, for more than 2,500 years, the revelation of the hope which God gave in Genesis 3:15 was preserved in the naming of the stars and their grouping in Signs and Constellations.
These groupings are quite arbitrary. There is nothing in the positions of the stars to suggest the pictures originally drawn around them. The Signs and Constellations were first designed and named; then, the pictures were drawn around them respectively. Thus the truth was enshrined and written in the heavens, where no human hand could touch it. In later years, when Israel came into the possession of the written “Scriptures of truth”, there was no longer any need for the more ancient writing in the heavens. Hence, the original teaching gradually faded away and the heathen, out of the smattering they had heard by tradition, evolved their cosmogonies and mythologies.
Psalm 19 contains a vivid reference to these two Books of revelation. That is why there is the very sudden change of subject at verse 7; a change which still perplexes and baffles all the skill of commentators.
The teaching is preserved in the structure of the Psalm, where we have
A | 1 – 4 -. The Heavens.
B | – 4 – 6. “In them, the sun”.
A | 7 – 10. The Scriptures.
B | 11 – 14. “In them 1, Thy servant”.
In this structure every line emphasises the elaboration of the design: for, while, in the first half, all the terms are literary, in the latter half they are all astronomical, thus welding the two portions of the Psalm into one harmonious whole.
For the meaning of the words, reference must be made to the Psalm itself. We can only note here that the first part does not refer to the wonders of creation, but to the eloquence of its teaching and revelation: they “declare”, tell, or narrate (Genesis 24:66. Psalm 71:15), they “utter speech”, but without words (omit “where” in verse 3); Hebrew = they “show forth”, exhibit (Genesis 3:11. Psalm 97:6; 111:6); they prophesy “day by day”, “night by night”. The question is: What do they prophesy? What knowledge do they show forth? What glory do they tell of?
The answer is – Genesis 3:15. The one great central truth of all prophecy – the coming One, Who, though He should suffer, should in the end crush the head of the old serpent, the Devil.
But, where are we to open this book? Where are we to break into this circle of the Zodiacal signs?
*announcer*
christians are up by two but wait here comes the astrologers coming down left field. The christians prepare…wait…out of nowhere comes the atheists and a HUGE EXPLOSION….OMG!… The dust settles…I see something…YES! the atheists have one it!
Yes.
The Law that God gave to Moses specifically warned the Israelites against looking for omens. “There should not be found in you . . . anyone who employs divination . . . or anyone who looks for omens,” the Law stated. “Everybody doing these things is something detestable to Jehovah.”—Deuteronomy 18:10, 12.
Although astrology is not mentioned by name in that scripture, the prohibition evidently included the practice. The Encyclopædia Britannica notes that astrology is a “type of divination that consists in forecasting earthly and human events by means of observing and interpreting the fixed stars, the Sun, the Moon, and the planets.” All forms of divination—whether based on the stars or other objects—violate God’s guidelines. Why? There is good reason.
Rather than attribute our successes or failures to the stars, the Bible clearly states that “whatever a man is sowing, this he will also reap.” (Galatians 6:7) God holds each of us responsible for our actions, since we are free moral agents. (Deuteronomy 30:19, 20; Romans 14:12) True, we may suffer an accident or an illness because of events beyond our control. But such calamities, the Scriptures explain, are due to “time and unforeseen occurrence,” not our horoscope.—Ecclesiastes 9:11.
Most people say yes. I looked it up in the Bible, and in the same area it also said that man should not predict weather.
Astrology is a Babylonian corruption of the Hebrew Mazzaroth, which according to tradition was developed before the Great Flood by Adam, Seth and Enoch.
Under God’s direction they chose 12 constellations and named them in such a way as to tell the story of the coming Redeemer. When the earliest descendants of Adam looked up into the night sky they could reassure themselves that God would one day send them someone who would free the creation from its bondage to sin, like He had promised Eve in Genesis 3:15.
This is all documented in a book by J.A. Seiss called, “The Gospel in the Stars.” (The study of the corruption we call astrology was the reason the Tower of Babel was destroyed and the people scattered. God made studying astrology a crime punishable by death.)
Yes.
No.
You’ll get both answers from christians.
Does it really matter? Both are based on superstition.
I believe that most Christian denominations will not condone the use of astrology. The two most popular forms of astrology (Roman/Greek and Chinese) were created by people who believed that the gods were telling them things through the stars.
I am no “expert” on the subject, but I have talked to Catholic priests, Protestant pastors, and other theological experts about this. They say (more elloquently) about the same thing.
Against us meaning trying to hurt us? Not specifically. It lures people away from Christ sure but does it attack us like atheism? No.
Is it against God’s law? Yes. We are not to look to the stars or the dead for answers.
Yes it is.
RA is right – they were astrologers, and their actions of going to Herod proved they were unintentionally working for Satan.
No. What is “against” the bible is the belief that the machinations of astrology supersede the will of god, which is pretty clear if you look for it. The book of Genesis states that the stars were placed in the heavens “for signs.”
I don’t know about christian religion but astrology is against islam so it should be against christianity because the two religions are from the same god